Iran IP's are banned

travis82 · 10-04-2016, 04:04 PM

@Sefid par

First: Salam hamshahri.
Second: Glad to see another Slackware user from my hometown.
Third: I'm living in Karaj and I have to use IP changers for LQ as well. Unfortunately this is a problem we should live with.
Forth: Don't bother your mind for GPL. That's utter BS in real world.

Cheers

jamison20000e · 10-04-2016, 06:03 PM

Your forth point doesn't come across; a GPL is simply a licence agreement for freedom, a concept not truly supported by most governments, corporations or money\power in general?

Sefid par · 06-12-2017, 04:41 AM

Our IP still is blocked.
It would be appreciated if I could open LQ without IP changer. Most of IP changers don't work all the time.
I ask masters and managers help me find a way to open this lock.

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Originally Posted by travis82

@Sefid par

First: Salam hamshahri.
Second: Glad to see another Slackware user from my hometown.
Third: I'm living in Karaj and I have to use IP changers for LQ as well. Unfortunately this is a problem we should live with.
Forth: Don't bother your mind for GPL. That's utter BS in real world.

Cheers

Why are you so hopeless. I think a Linux man is always hopeful.

jamison20000e · 06-12-2017, 08:46 AM

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Iran: From Free Internet to Free Internet
By MohammadReza Azali - Mar 8, 2016
Iran’s government is aiming to bring free of charge internet for its people. Apart from that, government officials are changing their point of view about internet censorship. They believe that the aim should be towards suitable content, instead of limiting people’s access.

Censorship Is Not the Way, Culture is the key

Mahmoud Vaezi, Minister of Communications said that Iranians are all responsible for inappropriate contents on the web, and It’s not only the government’s responsibility to work on this issue but it’s people’s too. Vaezi believes that internet has good and bad aspects, but it’s the people who would decide how use the content. “In all societies in the world we have good and bad things, so we can’t say we should only have the good things on the web. We have to increase the public awareness to solve this issue,” said Vaezi on the second National Conference on Clean Cyberspace.

Vaezi also compared the physical world with the digital world and said that the society should make its way into digital world in every aspect that it can. He also mentioned that the government should work on the educational system to teach the related subjects on cyberspace. “If we want to censor a website for only 10 to 15 percent explicit materials we would encounter problems,” Vaezi added. In the past few years, government has been trying to work on the cultural side instead of limiting people’s access to the internet. So we can hope by developing the culture, we would have more free internet, and enough suitable content for people to pay less attention to explicit materials. But at the end, it doesn’t mean that the government would stop its “Smart Filtering” or in other word “Smart Censorship”.
Right now Smart Filtering is on its third phase which means the government would move its censorship from the country’s main internet gateway to ISPs and universities. This process has been started since a week ago. By implementing this method internet speed would improve, and on the other hand the censorship would depend on the users (such as university and public users).

Internet Free of Charge

There were also some talks on free internet in the second National Conference on Clean Cyberspac. Secretary of the Supreme Council of Cyberspace said that in Iran people still pay for internet based on the data usage. “This is an old way of calculating internet costs and other countries are providing internet for their people nearly free of charge,” said Abolhassan Firouzabadi. Firouzabadi also stated that the bandwidth capacity on cellular networks is limited, so the amount of data that is being transferred is important. But in Fiber Optic networks the amount of data that has been transferred does not matter. “We had good initiatives in the past few months for starting National Information Network, but we should have started it sooner and I hope we accelerate the development even faster,” added Firouzabadi.

Overall, the government is putting more energy on improving internet access and internet penetration, we hope to see these initiatives turn into reality very soon.

--http://techrasa.com/2016/03/08/iran-from-free-internet-to-free-internet/

Wonder if satellite internet would work for you, not necessarily a provider (that may still be governed) tho would be cheaper than a satellite internet device?

Or, I suggest finding forums that don't have rules like LQs not allowing many here to tell you how to brake you "governments" silly "laws..." http://www.sc.edu/beaufort/library/p...es/bones.shtml

scasey · 06-12-2017, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sefid par

How ever US tried ban the most profiting websites. I think most of them are from Oracle (Like android and the websites from Google).

AFAIK, there is no "US" banning of anything. Certainly, I get copious spam from Iran (and China, and India), which *I* choose to block/ban email from (my server, my rules)...mostly because I have no customers that do business with anyone in those (and several other) countries. However, absent other issues, I only block email.

Sefid par · 06-12-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scasey

AFAIK, there is no "US" banning of anything. Certainly, I get copious spam from Iran (and China, and India), which *I* choose to block/ban email from (my server, my rules)...mostly because I have no customers that do business with anyone in those (and several other) countries. However, absent other issues, I only block email.

Thanks for your sincere answer. This is true. There are some reasons. One is that Iranian people (and maybe China, I do not know) use cracked software (Not Linux and GNU licensed software) and I think the cracked software is a place to make small or big attacks/spams.

Other thing about there is no customer from Iran is that US has blocked Iran from accessing Visa/Master card and other services for purchase. I tried to buy some books (In a time that there were no way to buy them. And also these books are ready to download freely in www) and paid for the book to a company that told gave the money to the seller website. I paid much money in comparison to my income, But I could not buy the book. I told you how hard is making trade with other countries from Iran.
One of the reasons that I choose Linux over other OSes is that, I didn't need to purchase for them and break the global law. And now I'm very glad to choose my beloved Linux Slackware :-)

TB0ne · 06-12-2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sefid par

Thanks for your sincere answer. This is true. There are some reasons. One is that Iranian people (and maybe China, I do not know) use cracked software (Not Linux and GNU licensed software) and I think the cracked software is a place to make small or big attacks/spams.

This particular case has absolutely nothing to do with any 'cracked' software. It has to do with the firewalls and restrictions on the Internet in your country. Lots of sites are on banned lists in your country, China, and lots of other nations with filtered Internet access. There is zero a website owner can do to somehow make their site show up, short of petitioning the government to add it to the 'allowed' list. If you'd like LinuxQuestions added to that list, then I suggest you contact your government and have it added to the list of allowed sites.

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Other thing about there is no customer from Iran is that US has blocked Iran from accessing Visa/Master card and other services for purchase. I tried to buy some books (In a time that there were no way to buy them. And also these books are ready to download freely in www) and paid for the book to a company that told gave the money to the seller website. I paid much money in comparison to my income, But I could not buy the book. I told you how hard is making trade with other countries from Iran. One of the reasons that I choose Linux over other OSes is that, I didn't need to purchase for them and break the global law. And now I'm very glad to choose my beloved Linux Slackware :-)

Wrong again. The US has not blocked Iran from doing anything of the kind in regards to online purchases...that is the decision of the banks and issuers, based on many different criteria. The US government does not control who can accept a credit card..they leave that to the issuers, and as long as the issuers obey the banking regulations of the US, they're fine. And in your particular scenario, the US banks would only have something to say, if your credit card was issued by a US bank.

Laserbeak · 06-12-2017, 01:16 PM

Likewise, I'm not aware of any general Government ban on Iranian IP addresses accessing US servers. However, certain sites or entire ISPs could ban them at their discretion.

jeremy · 06-12-2017, 01:24 PM

TB0ne, I've asked you to stop shouting in threads multiple times now. Ever worse here, the traceroute in post #11 indicates you're not only shouting but incorrect; the block is in the USA, between the source IP and LQ.

--jeremy

TB0ne · 06-12-2017, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy

TB0ne, I've asked you to stop shouting in threads multiple times now.

Sorry, but that was not shouting, but emphasis. All caps is typically consider shouting.

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Ever worse here, the traceroute in post #11 indicates you're not only shouting but incorrect; the block is in the USA, between the source IP and LQ.

I picked on what scasey posted, and the point in my reply was that the US Government wasn't/isn't blocking this, and that is totally correct. Whether the hosting provider you use does or not is a different topic. Much like the OP posted about the US blocking visa/mastercard...that is incorrect as well.

Also, the traceroute in question was from last year, and the OP didn't post back, giving the impression that you had resolved the problem. Given the current situations in Iran, and the fact that they practice country-wide net censorship, it is fairly logical to assume that since it was working and now it isn't..that something changed on their end. I certainly don't know which web host you use, if anything has changed there, etc., so yes...I could be wrong. But lacking crucial information to make a determination leaves one to only surmise, and that certainly isn't cause to chide someone for an incorrect assumption.

Thanks again, jeremy.

travis82 · 06-15-2017, 05:27 AM

@TBOne
As Jeremy said LQ hasn't been blocked by Iran government and concerning online purchasing your information is not correct. You may double check your reference.

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Originally Posted by Sefid par

Why are you so hopeless. I think a Linux man is always hopeful.

Hope for what? A Mullah be elected as US president? or perhaps you expect another revolution in Iran by linux community?

Laserbeak · 06-16-2017, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by travis82

Hope for what? A Mullah be elected as US president? or perhaps you expect another revolution in Iran by linux community?

ROFL, I literally spit out my (alcoholic) drink!

jamison20000e · 06-16-2017, 08:17 AM

"elected as US president" is the real joke here "Laserbeak"

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5700447

jamison20000e · 06-16-2017, 08:19 AM

Has the GPL revolution ended, don't think by laws it can‽

jeremy · 06-16-2017, 08:48 AM

A reminder that the LQ rules clearly state not to post if you do not have anything constructive to say, and that all posts should be on topic. There seems to be an accelerating trend of this not being the case, and it needs to stop. Thanks.

--jeremy