any of you know of software to deal with recalcitrant copy-protected cd from 2008 ?
 

so i have a promotion audio cd from 2008 and i simply cannot rip it it is copy protected


i simply want to copy it to my computer but whatever is in there does not allow me to


i have tried











as you can see i have used quite a few of the heavy guns any of those would work to rip any other audio cd

i think here i need some űbernerd expertise

ok please clever suggestions welcome it is copy protected from 2008 so recent technology

it tells me there are no audio tracks on the disc which of course is not true as it plays in my stereo it pretends to be a data disc but is not

Wrong forum!

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Copy protected > > Illegal to answer, per LQ Rules.

In some countries, even making a backup from copy
protected media .. is not allowed.

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and please use colored text more careful

Hi shantiq, welcome to LQ!

Members who have posted above are merely adhering to the LQ rules as they understand them, particularly the rule(s) about posts or threads whose subject matter may be considered potentially harmful to LQ or a third party.

LQ staff including myself have been discussing threads vaguely similar to yours for the past few weeks, and discussions are still ongoing, regarding what exactly is 'allowable topic of discussion' under various circumstances, usually on topics that are related to "cracking and security stuff", but copying protected media is related to these discussions too, so what I am going to write here *might* be overruled down the road, by other moderator(s) possibly including myself, or by Jeremy, the site Admin.

Now, given that:

A) You own the media and have legally purchased it or otherwise legally obtained it;
B) It's reasonable to believe that you are allowed making a backup of said media, in case the original becomes damaged.
C) You state that in your country, it is not illegal to do what you wish to do;

..it is my belief that it would be OK to make a personal backup of this media, and if you wish to make that backup onto your computer, that's OK too.

As I said, this is at this time, only my own interpretation of the situation. I am going to report this thread for review by other moderators and/or by Jeremy, and one of us will post back later on, either giving the OK to help, or to shut down the thread because it is deemed NOT OK.

Also, a friendly "for your information": It is common for folks to suggest that funny colors be avoided when making posts, because more often than not, colored text is harder on the eyes than normal black text. However, given your vision handicap, please feel free to post in whatever color you find easiest to read. You may do well to make a note in your future threads though, as to the reason why you use the colors, otherwise you will very likely get more replies asking you to not use colors :) -- and, I hopefully speak for every member, when I say that we do not discriminate against the handicapped here at LQ. Everyone is welcome, and deserves to be treated fairly.

So, we'll get back to you on the subject of this thread.

Meanwhile, best regards!
Sasha

Discussion is still ongoing about this thread, but I would like to say:

If the media claims to not have any audio tracks, then it would seem to me that using tools designed for ripping audio, are not the way to go about this.

I would be looking maybe at `mkisofs` or `growisofs` to recreate the media's ISO image as an .ISO file on your computer. This image would in theory be identical to the image on the media itself. So it still would not have "audio tracks", it would look and act just like the CD media.

Having done this (creating the .ISO image using `growisofs` or whatever) you would need to treat it just like the hard media, if you wanted to play it; i.e. either mount the .ISO image (on a loop device), or in the case where media does not need to be mounted in order to play it (like audio CDs) just point your media player at the .ISO image.

Note I haven't actually tried this procedure myself, so no guarantees!

Sasha

In the US there is an analog loop-hole. Since you an play the music on your stereo, you can encode the analog audio. The laws in your country you referred to may make archiving legal. That isn't the same thing as ripping. Also defeating copy protection may not be covered either.

Audio CDs don't have encryption. I'm betting another technique was used, and there are still audio tracks on the disc.

In the long run, simply stop purchasing music from this source if they don't allow you to enjoy the music as you'ld like.

Can you go any lower than this, It sure will not make you many friend here.

i am sorry davno but your curt and dismissive two word reply was unfriendly in the extreme and very unwelcoming.

i also think It sure will not make you many friend here is pretty much more of the same.


If you read some of the other replies people are trying to help.


If you have something to say to help me with my request please do so otherwise i would be grateful if you could refrain from writing on this post.

If you are that desperate to get it to your machine, you could always just play it and record it on the line in of your soundcard?

Not ideal, but a solution.

shan,
You will probably never see this as you seem to have departed LQ:

shantiq
Last Activity: 02-08-10 10:37 AM

And worse, if you do, you may take offense at my question:

Why do you need to use bold colors when writing your posts, but not when reading our posts?

Have you investigated using a browser, Opera comes to mind, that can compensate for vision problems wherever you are on the web -- not just when you are posting, but when you are reading as well.


Comments on Legality
Your IP information:

<removed> - location confirmed.

indicates that you are probably located in the UK.

Is this true?
If so, are you sure that ripping a copy-protected CD is legal there?


BTW, I have impairments, too. See my blog. Edit: Cancel that, That entry is still in draft.

Afterthoughts
While posts 2-4 were short to the point of brusqueness, they were factual & not overtly rude. That, the rudeness, was started by OP in post #5, continued by her in post #7, responded to by Davno in post #11, & she snapped back at him in post #12. A mini-flame war that probably caused her departure from LQ.
Sad...Sad...Sad.

You will get answers to your technical questions if they do no harm to LinuxQuestions.org. Copy-protection is always a matter. I live in Germany, and here it is illegal to copy any medium that has a copy protection, even if you have bought it and it simply is yours. So Archtoads question about your country is legitimate, especially because Archtoad is a moderator and therefore has to care for the forum by definition.

To your question: The only way I may copy a copy-protected CD without being illegal in my country is to play it with a normal CD-player and record it with your PC. But was already mentioned before.

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I don't see the need, it's changed already. Also, I'm not sure that it's as big privacy or security problem as one might imagine: it's embedded in every packet that goes between your computer & the Internet -- in either direction! However, confirm that you are in the UK, & I will do as you ask.

You still haven't answered my questions about your location or what you do to read "normal" posts.

FWIW, your choice of color bothers at least one member w/ a different visual impairment:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...6/#post4212043
Curiosity -- How long have you had yours?

Thank you for sticking w/ us & trying to find a good tone.

Are you sure about that?

In any case, any help you get on here is free and is out of the kindness of the members. You aren't paying for it so if you don't like it then sod off.

Strictly speaking, making a private copy of copyrighted media is illegal in the UK.

Reference

What about V+/Sky+ then? All the content on the BBC is copyrighted, yet those copy and store it indiscriminiately. I'm not going to even get into the problems thrown up by the fact if you view a web page all of its content is "copied" to your RAM, to your Display, and many copies are created in this process.


However this has already been looked over by the ops, and ok'ed for discussion.

shantiq

Ah, some people get rilled up at different things, they only appear angry as they are quick to defend that which they love (linuxquestions) against anything which may threaten it :)

Out of interest have you checked the site/myspace of the CD's artists, maybe they have mp3s you can just download, or would be able to provide you with them? Its always worth asking.

I was going to say the analog loophole, but then it dawned on me.

Its the big red book.

There is a... "standard" that CD's are meant to meet to be classed as compact Discs *(not disks) and so meeting this standard means they'll play on any CD player, I'm guessing that whatever has been done to that CD, may break this standard.