any of you know of software to deal with recalcitrant copy-protected cd from 2008 ?

shantiq · 02-01-2010, 04:31 AM

so i have a promotion audio cd from 2008 and i simply cannot rip it it is copy protected

i simply want to copy it to my computer but whatever is in there does not allow me to

i have tried

Code:

ripit -w --cdtoc 0 -r 0

Code:

cdparanoia -d /dev/cdrom -q  -v --output-wav --batch  1-11

Code:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=my_cd_image.iso

Code:

pacpl  --outdir /home/shantiq/Desktop  --rip all  -t wav

as you can see i have used quite a few of the heavy guns any of those would work to rip any other audio cd

i think here i need some űbernerd expertise

ok please clever suggestions welcome it is copy protected from 2008 so recent technology

it tells me there are no audio tracks on the disc which of course is not true as it plays in my stereo it pretends to be a data disc but is not

Davno · 02-01-2010, 05:28 AM

Code:

copy protected

Wrong forum!

knudfl · 02-01-2010, 07:08 AM

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Copy protected > > Illegal to answer, per LQ Rules.

In some countries, even making a backup from copy
protected media .. is not allowed.

.....

mesiol · 02-01-2010, 08:08 AM

and please use colored text more careful

shantiq · 02-02-2010, 02:55 AM

what a charming crew !!!!!!

i thought most people here were intelligent

NOTHING illegal it is MY cd and i want to listen to it on my computer

In the country i live in it is not illegal

I asked for useful tips not bigotted answers

As for the colour of my type i am blind in one eye and it is the best colour for me to see

Maybe some of you do not like handicaps

I kindly requested useful answers

I am still waiting

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-02-2010, 03:41 AM

Hi shantiq, welcome to LQ!

Members who have posted above are merely adhering to the LQ rules as they understand them, particularly the rule(s) about posts or threads whose subject matter may be considered potentially harmful to LQ or a third party.

LQ staff including myself have been discussing threads vaguely similar to yours for the past few weeks, and discussions are still ongoing, regarding what exactly is 'allowable topic of discussion' under various circumstances, usually on topics that are related to "cracking and security stuff", but copying protected media is related to these discussions too, so what I am going to write here *might* be overruled down the road, by other moderator(s) possibly including myself, or by Jeremy, the site Admin.

Now, given that:

A) You own the media and have legally purchased it or otherwise legally obtained it;
B) It's reasonable to believe that you are allowed making a backup of said media, in case the original becomes damaged.
C) You state that in your country, it is not illegal to do what you wish to do;

..it is my belief that it would be OK to make a personal backup of this media, and if you wish to make that backup onto your computer, that's OK too.

As I said, this is at this time, only my own interpretation of the situation. I am going to report this thread for review by other moderators and/or by Jeremy, and one of us will post back later on, either giving the OK to help, or to shut down the thread because it is deemed NOT OK.

Also, a friendly "for your information": It is common for folks to suggest that funny colors be avoided when making posts, because more often than not, colored text is harder on the eyes than normal black text. However, given your vision handicap, please feel free to post in whatever color you find easiest to read. You may do well to make a note in your future threads though, as to the reason why you use the colors, otherwise you will very likely get more replies asking you to not use colors

-- and, I hopefully speak for every member, when I say that we do not discriminate against the handicapped here at LQ. Everyone is welcome, and deserves to be treated fairly.

So, we'll get back to you on the subject of this thread.

Meanwhile, best regards!
Sasha

shantiq · 02-03-2010, 02:36 AM

thank you sasha for a measured and kind reply

might you be of the clan of the YY? the female touch? anyway thanx

a lot of male nerds ( of which i belong/well would be nerd at least ) seem to surrender the heart when they are using the mind

Yes i did feel attacked. I am not robbing a bank here simply trying to add a disc to my computer collection a disc i bought online.

anyway so far having tried for a couple of weeks and tried every known ripper command or not still no dice

i believe it has to do with the disc claiming to have no audio tracks when it does there is the customary extra data track which throws the rippers off the best i have found so far is this

Quote:

3. Rip / Copy Multi-track Cd's (cue/bin, Playstation)

With mosts Cd's you can make a 1:1 copy with dd and burn this ISO 9660 image using any standard tool (like the CD-Writing HOWTO explains).

This does not work with Playstation-Cd's because the data track is written in mode 2 which dd can't read, and because the Cd's are multitrack (one data-track and several audio-tracks).

cdrdao (manual page) can copy these Cd's.

To read a CD and make a image pair:

cdrdao read-cd --read-raw --datafile [filename.bin] --device [bus,id,lun] --driver generic-mmc-raw [filename.toc]
[filename.bin] The actual image file
[bus,id,lun] The SCSI-address of the used device
[filename.toc] The description file (Table Of Contents)

IDE users should use --device ATAPI:0,0,0 (for the first drive, ATAPI:0,1,0 for the second), SCSI users only need to give ut the device number (--device 0,3,0). It is also possible to point directly to the device path: --device /dev/cdroms/cdrom1

Example:

cdrdao read-cd --read-raw --datafile my_game_rip.bin --device ATAPI:0,0,0 --driver generic-mmc-raw my_game_rip.toc

since it reads the cd as having both audio and data track

but it still did not work

PS please do not delete this post. as you can see not an illegal endeavour. What we are doing here is sharing knowledge surely. If it is no trouble could the three posts above which were unkind and mildly aggressive be removed? thanx shan

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-03-2010, 07:21 AM

Discussion is still ongoing about this thread, but I would like to say:

If the media claims to not have any audio tracks, then it would seem to me that using tools designed for ripping audio, are not the way to go about this.

I would be looking maybe at `mkisofs` or `growisofs` to recreate the media's ISO image as an .ISO file on your computer. This image would in theory be identical to the image on the media itself. So it still would not have "audio tracks", it would look and act just like the CD media.

Having done this (creating the .ISO image using `growisofs` or whatever) you would need to treat it just like the hard media, if you wanted to play it; i.e. either mount the .ISO image (on a loop device), or in the case where media does not need to be mounted in order to play it (like audio CDs) just point your media player at the .ISO image.

Note I haven't actually tried this procedure myself, so no guarantees!

Sasha

shantiq · 02-04-2010, 07:43 AM

thank you grapefruit girl will give that a shot

ok had a look at mkisofs` or `growisofs but those are commands from genisoimage

and i see no way of ripping a cd to an iso image with that software it seems to generate iso images from existing files on a computer

not from a disc drive am i missing something? ps mind you that seems a good route since if one manages to extract an iso from the disc one could then open the iso and pluck the audio trax out of there

jschiwal · 02-04-2010, 10:11 PM

In the US there is an analog loop-hole. Since you an play the music on your stereo, you can encode the analog audio. The laws in your country you referred to may make archiving legal. That isn't the same thing as ripping. Also defeating copy protection may not be covered either.

Audio CDs don't have encryption. I'm betting another technique was used, and there are still audio tracks on the disc.

In the long run, simply stop purchasing music from this source if they don't allow you to enjoy the music as you'ld like.

Davno · 02-05-2010, 01:49 AM

Quote:

PS please do not delete this post. as you can see not an illegal endeavour. What we are doing here is sharing knowledge surely. If it is no trouble could the three posts above which were unkind and mildly aggressive be removed? thanx shan

Can you go any lower than this, It sure will not make you many friend here.

shantiq · 02-05-2010, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davno

Quote:

PS please do not delete this post. as you can see not an illegal endeavour. What we are doing here is sharing knowledge surely. If it is no trouble could the three posts above which were unkind and mildly aggressive be removed? thanx shan

Can you go any lower than this, It sure will not make you many friend here.

i am sorry davno but your curt and dismissive two word reply was unfriendly in the extreme and very unwelcoming.

i also think It sure will not make you many friend here is pretty much more of the same.

If you read some of the other replies people are trying to help.

If you have something to say to help me with my request please do so otherwise i would be grateful if you could refrain from writing on this post.

shantiq · 02-07-2010, 04:17 PM

ok still looking and i found some good bits of code to copy cds but still nothing for my particular problem

i include the codes here for the ones who might want a handy way to rip audio cds

to rip IN A REALLY ACCURATE way

Code:

icedax dev=/dev/cdrom -vall cddb=0 -B -Owav

then write

Code:

wodim dev=/dev/cdrw -v -dao -useinfo -text *.wav

The iso way which seems the best is still proving problematic

but checked readom which is for copying data cds

Code:

readom dev=device [ options ]

and that seems hopeful

Code:

readom dev=2,0 f=cdimage.raw

but hey still looking

devnull10 · 02-07-2010, 04:34 PM

If you are that desperate to get it to your machine, you could always just play it and record it on the line in of your soundcard?

Not ideal, but a solution.

archtoad6 · 01-02-2011, 04:37 PM

shan,
You will probably never see this as you seem to have departed LQ:

shantiq
Last Activity: 02-08-10 10:37 AM

And worse, if you do, you may take offense at my question:

Why do you need to use bold colors when writing your posts, but not when reading our posts?

Have you investigated using a browser, Opera comes to mind, that can compensate for vision problems wherever you are on the web -- not just when you are posting, but when you are reading as well.

Comments on Legality
Your IP information:

<removed> - location confirmed.

indicates that you are probably located in the UK.

Is this true?
If so, are you sure that ripping a copy-protected CD is legal there?

BTW, I have impairments, too. See my blog. Edit: Cancel that, That entry is still in draft.