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Old 03-26-2017, 04:49 PM   #1
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Is rkhunter still in development?


Hi everybody

I have a question about rkhunter. Is it still in development or it it a depreciated project. I ask because when I do a rkhunter --update there is no updates. It been like this for almost a year.

Clamav always has updates for it's virus signatures. Is there an alternative for rkhunter?

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Old 03-26-2017, 08:29 PM   #2
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Hi everybody

I have a question about rkhunter. Is it still in development or it it a depreciated project. I ask because when I do a rkhunter --update there is no updates. It been like this for almost a year.

Clamav always has updates for it's virus signatures. Is there an alternative for rkhunter?
I think you misunderstand the nature of the rkhunter package. There has been no NEED to change it since late 2014 because it performs exactly to specification. Should one of the supported distributions of linux (or the package manager system) change so greatly as to obsolete the current version, then a new patch or version may be required. Until then, there is no reason to change anything.

Clamav must change to accommodate additional threat types, and the signature/pattern files update FAR more often. Rkhunter detects a single kind of threat, the rootkit, and detects that by the effect one has on the previously existing installed files rather than looking for signatures. What a rootkit does has not changed, so the detection is not required to change.
 
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This question got me thinking and learning, via some web searches, where I found tons of interesting stuff about security.

Think of rkhunter (very loosely) as a detailed 'ls -lR' (plus checksums), of all 'system' files, > mysys, meaning 'output redirected to a file, to save a baseline footprint of my system/OS's files'.

Then, perodically, I run this, redirected to a 'nowmysys' file, and compare them (looking for 'bad' changes).

Conceptually, in this analogy, 'ls' and the script does not need updating! See?

Thanks for a good question, and WELCOME to LQ!
 
Old 03-26-2017, 10:18 PM   #4
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I think you misunderstand the nature of the rkhunter package. There has been no NEED to change it since late 2014 because it performs exactly to specification. Should one of the supported distributions of linux (or the package manager system) change so greatly as to obsolete the current version, then a new patch or version may be required. Until then, there is no reason to change anything.
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This question got me thinking and learning, via some web searches, where I found tons of interesting stuff about security.

Think of rkhunter (very loosely) as a detailed 'ls -lR' (plus checksums), of all 'system' files, > mysys, meaning 'output redirected to a file, to save a baseline footprint of my system/OS's files'.

Then, perodically, I run this, redirected to a 'nowmysys' file, and compare them (looking for 'bad' changes).

Conceptually, in this analogy, 'ls' and the script does not need updating! See?

Thanks for a good question, and WELCOME to LQ!
@ wpeckham
@ !!!

I guess I didn't know too much about rkhunter and how much development it needs. I thought it was something like clamav but for rootkits.

I understand a little more now.

Even though linux has lesser chance of virus infection than windows, I still like to periodically check my system after a long time between checks.

Thanks !!! for the welcome...


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Old 03-27-2017, 01:15 PM   #5
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You're VERY welcome. Enjoy Linux; looking forward to more questions from you!
You probably know current Linux better than me, and there's an abundance of answer-power here.

p.s. you can use the Thread Tools drop-down button on top of page, to mark this as 'Solved' when you are done with this, so future searchers will find it as a Solution.

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Old 04-01-2017, 03:05 PM   #6
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I have a question about rkhunter. Is it still in development or it it a depreciated project.
As one of the developers listed I'd say "yes", but unfortunately I've got very little to prove for it. In part due to the half-life time of some of what it checks, part because of Real Life commitments (which as some of you may have noticed also included me hanging out at LQ).


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Is there an alternative for rkhunter?
I'd go for all the regular hardening needed, a combination of the LSPP and (prolly) NISPOM Audit rules, Logwatch (,remote syslog?) and, while in no way a comparative product (in a few aspects it's way better ;-p), Samhain in daemon and server - client mode.
 
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