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Is it possible to install the LiveCD?
I have tried "lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2145" and found it fantastic for my simple use of computer.
I hardly can understand anything on the README.html file. I just wondered if it is possible to install the LiveCD's OP system to a partition on my hard-disk-drive.If it is, would you tell me how? Thank you,---godoten[ :) |
Hello and Welcome to LinuxQuestions,
First of all LFS (Linux From Scratch) is not your everyday Linux distro. I've never tried to install the LiveCD onto harddisk although there are ways to do it (Google turns up with some sites like this one). However taking into account the difficulty of LFS and the fact that you seem to be new to Linux, I'd advice you to use another distro. Most of the LiveCD/LiveDVD have an install to harddisk option. Make your choice depending on what you want or need from your Linux distro. Kind regards, Eric |
Thank you Eric
Dear Eric,
Thank you for your post. I am studying the article at the Link. I may be able to manage to do it, with a bit of try and error? If I could then, I would add programs I usually use, imagemagic and audacity ..etc. I have tried it with `linux toram` to use for my normal use of my computer. I was impressed with it's crisp response to my commands. I was stack with SuSE-10.2 for a last few years because they made it heavier and heavier up to SuSE-11.3. To my sense the "akonadi" was the end of the fun of big linux distro. I need to find some distro without the "akonadi", and came across LFS-LiveCD. It was a bliss. To thank you I am putting a URL to a fantastic site below. I hope you would spread the words about the site to all of your friends. "Long Live!", my friend,---godoten:) --------------------------------------------------------------- The most positive thought: ===TENPAGE=== "You are not suppose to die.....", by Otomakas http://tenpage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/en/welcome.html |
There are plenty of ways to install some or maybe all live cd's. The problem is you shouldn't do that. Live cd's are made to be live. Consider a real install of some distro. Distro's offer more simple ways to update and add to.
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I disagree with your statement, sorry for that. But in my opinion the whole LiveCD/LiveDVD thing is meant to offer a possibility to try out a distro without installing it. Naturally there are several distros that are only meant to run as Live, or at the least preferred to use as Live, like security distros for penetration testing and all that nice stuff. If someone wants to try out a distro using a LiveCD/LiveDVD and after that wants to use it, then he/she should be free to do so involving the least hassle. There are several distros that come with such an installation option, like Knoppix, Mint, just to name a few. It's so much easier to just use the creator's install script/option to just install onto your harddisk instead of having to reboot from the same CD/DVD and use an install option/menu. Kind regards, Eric |
If you want a simple distro, check out Arch — it installs to just an absolute bare minimum working system (including no GUI), and you can install what you want.
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Dear Friends,
I've done it! :):) :) I managed it with the instruction Eric's "Link" gave,
despite of difficulties with missing /dev entries. I had a copy of "the /dev of the file system" from when I tried the LFS-Live CD loaded on to Ram. So I copied "the /dev" over newly made /dev dir on a HD "updating-copy-with-(mc)". A little problem to solve yet, though. At the start up, xkb-map and char-set setting program I have to go through every time. Would you tell me which file I should look into,...to edit a bit may be? This is beyond of my bash-ability but I should learn about it in trying things like this? Now I need to install some light(hopefully stand alone) weight editor with spell check ability. I am used to gedit and kate on SuSE-10.2, but I am useless with vi-family even with pico, nano or joe. I like "mc" a lot, but with it's editor I don't know how to copy in and out with other thing like browsers or file fiewers. Is it possible at all? As you suggest I would try different distros to learn the subject better. But why do they(big distros) not try to make system more efficient and smaller and meaner instead of making it larger and heavier? Silly aren't they? Blxx- xx akxnxdx, miss guided swine flu missiles!##*-+""~#*@##*&5^$.... But If I think of it, it made me needing to look into smaller distros and finding friends here so that I should be thankful to BlxxxyAkoxxxi may be? Thanks MTK358, I would try "Arch" if I could manage to get GUI working with it next. I am still on SuSE-10.2 for my everyday do, though. I think it was the best of SuSE.By the way I would suggest you to check out "abeldanger.net" for the latest world news on dead heat. I hope you have resonated with "The most positive thought" and live long. I wonder if Mr. Linuz T. would,... to look after his "Linux World" for good. Thank you,---godoten :D |
Please don't color your text for no reason.
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Sorry MTK358,
I used color to make more fun of reading at the other forums I post to talk
about our life and death. I should have known that I shouldn't here? I editted color out now. Thank you for your reminding me,---godoten |
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1. Go to Midnight Commander’s editor. 2. Press Shift key. 3. Use left mouse button to select the text still keeping Shift key pressed. 4. Release Shift key. 5. Go to the other application. 6. Use middle mouse button to paste the text in the other application. To copy the snippet of text from the other application to Midnight Commander’s editor: 1. Go to the other application. 2. Use left mouse button to select the text. 3. Go to Midnight Commander’s editor. 4. Press Shift key. 5. Use middle mouse button to paste the text in Midnight Commander’s editor still keeping Shift key pressed. 6. Release Shift key. Tip: To run Midnight Commander’s editor without running Midnight Commander use mcedit command. |
Whaohh...!
:hattip:Dear w1k0,
That's great! More so now, I can't do without "mc"! A while ago, I found the editor's blue background color makes the color-scheme of program files difficult to read, and tried to compile with "black" background on "mc-6.3.1" by editing "color.c". It worked fine until some garbage start to show up on file manager screen lately. I may try with a later version again, though I feel bad about it knowing why it is called "Midnight Commander". Thank you "Why-1-KO!",---godoten ;) |
Live CD are limited with packages and it takes so much time when you update the system.but try to use DVD version there you can select any Desktop environment Gnome or KDE etc and any other packages.
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As for colors the most radical option is to start Midnight Commander with mc -b command or just Midnight Commander’s editor with mcedit -b command. I believe there is also possible to change the color’s scheme of Midnight Commander. Just look at man mc.
As for the name Midnight Commander is the successor of old DOS application by Peter Norton Computing named Norton Commander. You could read about it here. Norton Commander was the best file manager invented in the history of computing. Calling it the best I mean the idea of the application not the implementation of that idea. The best implementation for DOS was Volkov Commander and the best implementation for Unix is Midnight Commander. |
WhaoWhaoWhaohh...!
:hattip:Dear w1k0,
I hardly read man page is my problems. It is the habit I have developed in years by trying to learn about things by reading "tutorials" which never told things "simply to the points I want to know", not like you did here. I am amazed with your help and am ashamed of myself. I MUST read the man page of such important thing as "MC" not to stay so ignorant. I am very grateful for the lesson. Thank you "W-1-KO".:doh: [I've got mixed feeling] Why I found "LFS-LiveCD" so good was that it had "scim" well functional at first place. As I have to write in Japanese occasionally "scim" is essential to me. When I tried the latest Slackware or Mandriva, the both were infected with "Akxxnxdi!" and been given up, it was a bit of struggle to get it working. It was a surprize to find it in the liveCD working perfectly. It is a strange thing that unless things goes wrong I never learn anything. I've got mixed feeling about it "If I should be thankful instead of being annoyed". What ever I have leaned about linux is because something didn't work or gone wrong. I have no expert next to me to show me the things, it is very frustrating being novice trying to get things working. Yet again I am learning not to get frustrated so badly at the same time. It must be that "Everything is for Good", just depending on how we take of anything? "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten ;) |
godoten,
At the beginning man pages seem complicated. The only way to overcome that difficulty is... to read man pages. Your Midnight Commander should offer some skins. Usually they are stored in /usr/share/mc/skins directory. My Midnight Commander offers six skins: darkfar.ini, default.ini, double-lines.ini, featured.ini, gotar.ini and nicedark.ini. Apart of default the best are in my opinion gotar and nicedark. So try the command mc -S gotar or mc -S nicedark. You could of course write your own skin using as a template some of the above. |
A live cd may have an installer, I don't disagree.
The booted system from a live cd could be copied or other ways to install it from it's "live state" to a drive. That is possible. The installer on a live cd is there to properly install the distro. You don't have to use it. Remember most live cd's fool ram and the read only disk to make a transparent to the user file system. There are some live cd's that are a bit tricky to install from. Their intent is to only run live. Gentoo and Knoppix are both difficult but not impossible to convert to a true install. If you read their own creators words you will see that they only intend it to run live. It is not my words but quoted from them. The Live cd was not created to be copied as such. It was meant to be run live no matter how you state it. A type of installer would make a much different OS than one has on the disk. Puppy linux has a few ways to install to a hard drive. Look at the old knoppix posts on installing it and how puppy works and see gentoo forums for ways around them. |
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Have you had a go at the latest two versions of Knoppix? They came bundled with Linux Pro Magazine and both of them (6.3 and 6.4) have various install options that work out of the box to install onto harddisk or USB stick. Nothing tricky about it, even a 10 year old can do it. Cannot speak for the other distros mentioned though. Kind regards, Eric |
So many choices over
wellming my slow head.
Dear jefro and ericTRA,
Thanks you all are so kind. I've tried Knoppix-DVD-6.2 with "toram" option. It's installation function on the pop-up menu was so scarely to go on to press "OK" button. I could not do. Anyway it had "akoxxxi" that I avoid like swine flu or carbone tax scheme now days. The "Puppy linux" sound sweet. I may try to have a look at it. I want to try the Arch as well. So many choices over wellming my slow head. Mean while I am working on the installed LFSlivecd. :D Whah! Thanks w1k0, I can have so much fun with mc now! I may even come up with my own skin since you mentioned it. I am on the LFSlivecr-on-HD started just now.(big :)) When the language & keymap setting box came up, I hit "Ent" key without hi-lighting "OK" button. From the error message I find the file seems something to do with the pop-up-box as: "/etc/rc.d/rcsysinit.d/S69langconf"->/etc/rc.d/init.d/langconf. At the beginning of the file says: ######################################################################## # Begin $rc_base/init.d/langconf # Description : Language and Keymap Configuration Script for the Live CD # Authors : Alexander E. Patrakov # Version : 00.00 # Notes ######################################################################## SELECTED= DATABASE=/etc/langconf/lang.dat FONTDB=/etc/langconf/font.dat ERRDB=/etc/langconf/font-errors.dat .... .... ....script follows. I used the method w1k0 taught me to copy above bit out from the "langconf". Though the following script are hardly intelligible to me but from the "lang.dat" I can see that this file seems to be responsible for the "pop-up-box". I am very grad I have done this "installing LiveCR on to HD". I have installed "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run" to get my LCD monitor working on full res.1920x1080. I have installed "ImageMagick.tar.gz" to get MC's picture viewing working. I am writing this with "mousepad". I can do with this for a while. I could find out how to get spell check working on this "mousepad"? For now, I've found the method W-1-KO taught me works to copy a bit even from terminal screen to mousepad. It's grate! I have copied whole of /opt/kde3, /opt/gnome, Qt3 and python from SuSE-10.2 but I couldn't get "gedit nor kate" working at the moment. I may have to find stand alone editor with spell check. Or I may try some spell check program with mousepad? I have been demanding your attention too long already? I say good bye for now.Thank you again! :hattip: "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten ;) |
Well, there you go, I ain't even a 10 year old. That's OK, kids don't feel insulted.
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Here's how I install any livecd without a installer or where installer is suspect
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Evolution on the planet Earth generation?
;) Dear Friends,
I have tried out KnoppixCD-6.2 and found it very good. The wobbly terminal made giggle. It had install option on Adriano for blind person. But it was again impossible to understand what is going to to happen if I chose "Automatic pertition"! When I chosen "gpart" option it did not have any thing I could decide such as on which partition to install nor which partition to be swap. This is extraordinary! They seem to have no idea what is needed to be informed on the part of users? Very kind to blind persons but to ordinary dip sticks so much of "data on the disk may be lost!" kind of warnings. Dose anyone know what is going to happen if you let go of the "Automatic partition" option? [ericTRA], you said "baby can install knoppix-6.3" did they make it so much better of install program? If that is the case, would you please tell me from where I can download it? "CD one!", because I don't want akoxxxx carbone tax fever of DVD! :D I really don't know why they did do it to waste so much of CPU power. In the latest Slackware also SuSE-11.3 it wasn't even working at fresh installation, did you know that? I can hardly believe what they did. Anyway it is something to blast about to disperse the frustrations caused by NWO 80%(this means 8 out of 10 to be murdered?) population reduction scheme? It must be the same people put money to disable us to have the fun of linux possibly? :cry: Dear Linus72, I'm going to try this out with the Knoppix-6.2-CD. Thank you! If it goes like this, within a week I also become an ex'pert on "how to install liveCD".:study: Dear Jefro, Which you chose "I may not have to die" or "I am dying"? These are both same probability 50/50. Then you should obviously believe the one positive possibility, wouldn't you? Everyone, you and your friends and family members? No one should believe in dying? Evolution on the planet Earth generation? "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten ;) |
Hi,
With regards to the Knoppix versions 6.3 and 6.4, for the moment they are only available as DVD with Linux Magazine and not for public download. According to the Knoppix website the newer releases will be made available on public mirrors this or next week in several formats like minimal CD, DVD. And yes there are several important changes on those latest versions. Kind regards, Eric |
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● When you copy the text from console or xterm to the other application – except for Midnight Commander – or vice versa you don’t have to use Shift switch. It makes things simpler. ● You can also copy text snippets exceeding console screen or xterm window. In order to achieve it press Shift key and use PgUp key to go to the beginning of the text. Then mark a bit of the text with left mouse button to point the beginning of the text. Next go to the end of text pressing Shift key and using PgDn key. Finally point the ending of the text using right mouse button. At that moment you can paste the selected text in the other application using middle mouse button. |
"The Nature Perfection..."
Dear EricTRA, Thank you for the info!
Dear w1k0, Thanks again for the tips! But how come my mc doesn't have the skin ability? Am I talking of some wrong kind of "mc"? The man page for mc look like a big holly book! I never could remember more than a few short cuts or something I usually find handy to know. I've got attention span of a mackerel. I just have to do with a few tricks plus the "how to copy in and out" that you taught me for the time being.A novice like me is quite happy with it anyway. ( :rolleyes: ) Dear Linus72, Have you tried it on Knoppix? They seem to have made it impossible in the name of some kind of security? Such complication with linked dirs I can't figure out where I am. But I am trying at the moment. Some times I've got even "can't execute binary files" when I did `cp` or `mc`, how come? ( :confused: ) What I never come to term is that thing of "you have no permission to do this or that",..talking about things on my own single person's computer! If you are running the computer net works of school or university you have to have those cares but how does any home computer would need such thing? Not many have to learn such things to become adomin of service provider's ever? Unless you have some dirty secret in your computer like big money making business with double accounts? Ah,hah! That's it, isn't it? The security is at most of importance when they have to sell it to big companies for $1,000 a piece, while giving it to us for free? Then I must not be so critical about it...! ...? I hope some of those business men so naive to think anything on their computers can remain secret. ( :D ) I don't know about others but I do avoid Ubuntu because it force me to do `sudo` thing for me to do anything. I like to run my computer as a root user all the time and do whatever I may do to make what ever the mess I may make. If it become disfunctional I just have to reinstall the system onto the partition kept only for OS. I found computer the best toy ever for me. "There is only One thing to everything belong There is only One thing you could trust There is only One thing give us to Be The Nature Perfection, The Nature Perfection, The Nature Perfection..." <---(This is a part of godo's song.) May be it is completely out of place, but it is important thing to think about? "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten ( ;) ) |
It protects you or viruses from messing up your system.
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I also use only a handful of possibilities of Midnight Commander. The same rule concerns the other applications. But sometimes I need to do something new and in such cases I look at manual pages. |
It's very strange?
Dear w1k0, That's right, I don't have it. Would you tell me where you got
you mc from? I never realized it before, on Mandrake, Mandriva, RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, old Debian nor SuSE. It's very strange? ( :confused: ) Dear MTK358, I know that you say the same as axxxxdi people say too? But it missing the point while the way poor novices learn things are when things don't work or go wrong by trying to find out how and why it doesn't and fix it? I am talking of self teaching ones like myself having no expert teachers next to me to show us how and why. I like to be able to make terrible mess of my computer. I always somehow managed to fix it so far. Only case I could not do anything about was the controller circuit(a micro-chip) of a hard disk drive broke down. I had one tune of mine I liked lost on it. But even this, about ten yeas later I found the exactly the same device as second hand on eBay with chuck away price, then I ripped the controller board of it and fixed on my old broken drive and recovered.the tune. I titled the tune "longlost".( :D )The one tune I have done with only free software instruments and sequencer! Dear Linus72, I am almost there. I am playing with the USB install of the Knoppix-6.2-CD at the moment. It very funny the "compiz". I'm sure children would love the 3D-animated desktop.( :Pengy: ) One may think a computer is a hardware but, you know, electricity or magneticity is intelligent powers so that it works as it does. It is the same miracle thing as our body works. How any transducer can read off the invisible dots and dashes like CD, DVD or HD drives does? That is why and how many mysterious things could happen with computer and it's net work systems? They blame it on "gremlins"? Every bits of this world of existence is made and kept by the intelligent force of the Nature with it's awareness. "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten ;) |
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Since it seems your Midnight Commander hasn’t skins create /usr/share/mc/skins directory and put there gotar.ini file: Code:
[skin][EDIT] Unfortunately Web site can't display properly some special characters so the frames in Midnight Commander using copied above skin will be spoiled. But if the experiment I suggest you to perform will succeed you could download the version of Midnight Commander including skins and use them in your system. The alternative method is to use mc -a switch to replace graphical lines with |, – and + characters. (I found that information at the very beginning of man mc.) [/EDIT] |
Humble pie @~#"%`¬xxx**
Dear Friends,
I am happily astonished with the meticulous organization of "Knoppix". I could not try "hard disk install" but "Flashmemory install" of the pop up menu. Started up with the USB install. And I found the package manager is fantastic. I could immediately "scim" installed together with all the dependencies through Net. If I started with LiveCD I have no need to touch xxxxxdi at all but can install anything, ...even amateur radio packages! I must shut my big-mouth-frog for good. I have learned so much so quick in a matter of a week with your friendly helps. I thank you and apology to anyone I might have offended with my million blue blistering barnacle! I now more so want to try to install the Knoppix live CD on to my hard disk. ( ;) ) Dear w1k0, :hattip: Yet again thank you for the kind help. I never thought "mc" has got such thing as skin capability. My prejudice! I can't do without this one. When I have to be on windows for my music making I use the one called "2xExplroer" which is a kind of "mc on GUI", (F5 & F6 works in the same way). It's "location window" become Dos command input. It's very good. I couldn't do without this neither. Btw, I have stacked with "windows-XP" with same reason as how I am with SuSE-10.2(This one is a state of art, in my opinion!). "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten( :D humble pie ) |
Hello,
Glad to hear you got it working somehow. Be sure to keep an eye on the Knoppix website. I'm sure there will be a newer release available soon. If not, then contact me through PM and I'll see what I can do to make it available for download to you on one of my servers. Kind regards, Eric |
"Merry Christmas!"
Dear w1k0,
:study: I have found the mc's "skin" on the knoppix as you say. I don't know how they appeared on my computer are what they suppose to be, I also tried on SuSE-10.2's mc and myself compiled "mc-4.6.1" your instructions, but it doesn't seems to work. The help screen shows up as below. It may be the case that I couldn't follow your instructions correctly, though. But as it says "-S: unknown option", this version is not equipped with the function? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- godo:~ # mc -S gotar Usage: mc [flags] [this_dir] [other_panel_dir] -h, --help Displays this help message -V, --version Displays the current version -x, --xterm Forces xterm features -d, --nomouse Disable mouse support in text version -t, --termcap Tries to use termcap instead of terminfo -k, --resetsoft Resets soft keys on HP terminals -s, --slow To run on slow terminals -a, --stickchars Use stickchars to draw -b, --nocolor Requests to run in black and white -c, --color Request to run in color mode -C, --colors=ARG Specifies a color configuration -H, --help-colors Displays a help screen on how to change the color scheme -l, --ftplog=ARG Log ftp dialog to specified file -D, --debuglevel=ARG Set debug level -f, --datadir Print data directory -P, --printwd=ARG Print last working directory to specified file -U, --subshell Enables subshell support (default) -u, --nosubshell Disables subshell support -v, --view=ARG Launches the file viewer on a file -e, --edit=ARG Edits one file +number Set initial line number for the internal editor Please send any bug reports (including the output of `mc -V') to mc-devel@gnome.org GNU Midnight Commander 4.6.1 -S: unknown option --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On my SuSE-10.2's "urxvt" with a little .sh file as below, I tried with your `mc -b`. The both option on `myterm.sh` show up nice. It is for my 1920x1080 screen. I like it! With the "urxvt"'s background color your `mc -b` is transparent! ## < myterm.sh > ##------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh urxvt -cr yellow -fn 10x20 -geometry 86x34 -bg rgb:27/36/27 -fg white & # urxvt -cr cyan -fn 10x20 -geometry 86x34 -bg rgb:9a/af/a9 -fg black & ##------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As I am a little fussy about appearance of things I work with, have tweeked the frame generally to thick "midgrey & dark ultramarine(high lighted)" as well. *** Thanks Eric! *** "Merry Christmas!", to all the friends of "positive thoughts"---godo( :newbie: ) |
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You reported you use SuSE 10.2. Assuming you mean openSUSE the current version is 11.3 so your system is slightly obsolete. In such case you could consider system’s upgrade. I don’t know SuSE nor openSUSE but LinuxQuestion.org has a section dedicated to Suse/Novell. So you could ask there a question about mc -S switch. Unfortunately openSUSE isn’t so popular as Ubuntu or Linux Mint. It’s much easier to gain some information about these more popular distributions. So you could consider to switch from SuSE to Ubuntu or Linux Mint. When novice asks me what distribution he or she have to choose I advice Linux Mint. It offers carefully selected applications so it’s light and relatively easy. As for Midnight Commander it’s possible to install it after the installation of the system. The current Linux Mint 10 Julia is here. Choose the standard version respectively 32- or 64-bit. Don’t omit to download and read “Linux Mint 10 User Guide”. So you have a plenty of possibilities. Now everything is a matter of choice. |
W-1-KO made my Happy Christmas!
:hattip: Thank you W-1-KO,
So many people works on linux is the promise for the bright future of the Earth world? So many and next to impossible to try them all? However, if people start to live long, time is not restriction. I may even become well acquainted with the subject. Mean while I am trying to install the Knoppix-6.2-CD to my hard disk, but this turn out to be a bit of a challenge(for me). While offered "USB install" works very well I feel it is a bit silly thing to do, though. I'm going to try "The current Linux Mint 10 Julia" later. Hearing your "Don’t omit to download and read “Linux Mint 10 User Guide”" made my Happy Christmas. ( :doh: ) "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!", to everyone---godoten ( :D ) |
I've done it!
:hattip: Thank you dear Linus72,
I have done it with your guide! I have realized that I needed to change a little the instructions you have kindly given to me here. I have worked from booted "/" system of USB-install. ( :newb: :confused: :study: :doh: xxx?x..!!! :D ) As the most of directories(bin,boot,etc,lib,root,sbin,usr,var) were linked to another directory called "UNIONFS" on "/" ,I needed to make those directories with -p option first. There were another directory called "KNOPPIX" on "/" to and from which various links were made. The both of them had their own "/" file system to confuse my novice brain. But after many try and error, I could see how important the "-p" option of `mkdir` in your instruction were. So I did: mkdir -p bin mkdir -p boot mkdir -p etc mkdir -p lib mkdir -p root mkdir -p sbin mkdir -p usr mkdir -p var Then: cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/bin/* /target/bin cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/boot/* /target/boot cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/etc/* /target/etc cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/lib/* /target/lib cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/root/* /target/root cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/sbin/* /target/sbin cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/usr/* /target/usr cp -R --preserve /UNIONFS/var/* /target/var And: modified fstab & mtab you gave to me to suit my install partition. I am very pleased with this Knoppix-CD system. It is very crispy first! When the desktop start-up it says " " with reverbed girl's voice. This means I can put any audio clip if I wish for the start-up? Only if I could find where it is installed in what audio format, then even without knowing how it is done? I am going to find out how it is done later alone. Btw: Dear w1k0, It was "Open SUSE-10.2" I think. "Happy New Year!", to every one---godoten ( :) ) |
The secret of novice (part-1):
Dear w1k0 and Friends,
I can't thank you enough for your kindness and torerance to my big mouth frog. I feel like I have got many good friends here. I know the true goodness of your advice "to read manuals". I have an experience of being given a great teaching from a young master violinist long time ago. He said "when you can hold your instrument you have mastered the instrument". I knew, at the first instance despite of that I don't play violin. it was "the true master's teaching". And I hear your advice as "the same kind". That is why I am writing this. Why there are so many of us novices, do you think? How should you define the novice? I tell you that the novice are by definition "who does not read the manuals".( :D ) It is more paticularly so when the manual are not written for the learners with true kind cares. If you give toy to children they would never read manuals but play with it and very quickly become expert player of the toy? Some may put the toy to pieces just for the sake of doing so. And in doing so some may become expert about the working of the toy as well? I guess, in the early days of computer development many princes got computers and many of them become novice, other than some of bigger princes who had true experts of the subject next to them and quickly became experts hobbyists. Are you not one of them? Those novices and the experts have formed the ground for modern computing affairs? Some of the ex-novice experts went to businesses and others went out of businesses. And the least capable ones become teachers? Here you can see why the later novice never read tutorials nor manuals? They often say thing like "I TEACH you this and that in next chapter!"...to put good children off the class room. You don't show things you know to your own children like that, do you? Certainly would not charge your children the fee for it, would any daddy? The novice of now days go on happily making great mess of their computer systems, and some of them may become future experts to come up with the computing affair of different kinds? In the near future we surely shall need semi-automatic "computer government"? Why? If the government is for everyones good, then there would be no need of arguments, but automated equal distribution system of the wealth of the Earth and good people's efforts? A software "the Government" is required? Someone can write it with friends "for the civilized state of the Earth world" as "The (regional) Government" and "The (central) Government"? We love to do shopping with our pocket money so there is a need for the system of money issuance. But for "the Government", wealth to be distributed should be measured as amounts of the true goods, then no need for money as number in any way? The monetary system would be a consequent out-come of the system of "the Government" for the convenience of the distribution of the things of great variety to individual persons for their fun of choosing(shopping)? The truth make foundation of the logic for that are: *) The Earth and it's products are no private person's property but what the Nature provide for everyone. ("You can plant a seed and watch it grow yet never can grow the plant" is a fact? Who's seeds is it? Who's soil is it? If it is not of the Nature itself which grows them? It is the miracle anything anyone just exist and be functional as they are also the things grow as they do?) *) Everyone is equal.(The base for the concept "Fair or Un-fair" or "Good or Bad".) *) The Nature's wish is "Everyone to be happy with the gifted life's being" in sharing "what the Nature and good peoples efforts provide" in peace. *) "Bad or no good thing shall die out" is the Law of the Nature. Any ones volantire and do it in quiet for the time it would be wanted? Linux is the most suitable system? It won't be for monetary gain such as miserable thing but for the fun of doing "Good" for everyone on Earth? I think so, don't you? "Happy New Year!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten( ;) ) |
The secret of novice (part-2):
( :) ) Dear Friends,
While in trying "Adriane-knoppix" on Knoppix-CD I found it can read out everything on screen with synthesized voice? If you can do this so effectively then judges and their court houses can be made obsolete? After all, the fundamental reason for any judgment in such as seeking justice(not for injustice) should be referenced to the simple fact of fair(good) or not-fair(bad)? Then there never would be need for such judicial system as such in existence(is for un-just minority's interest for their selfish wish to against the Law of the Nature?) is the fact of the matter? In the coming civilized Earth world, as no one would be un-just or un-fair for own eternal life's chance sake such thing could be made to children's software toys for their computer? Also "the Teacher for life"? There would not be need for such trick legalese but a few hundreds words would be more than adequate to answer for the any truly wanted answers for possible questions children may ask? It can't be as difficult as some of sophisticated software electronics circuit simulators which could come up with precise working conditions of any possible circuits made of known parts? Or 22 players responses to the movement of a football? You can write "Judge and Teacher" as "One person" of all kinds of characteristic wits and wisdom like you can find in many comic stories, for PS-3 or X-Box to make big hits? Not much actions are necessary so that you can tweak the subtle details of the character's movements or expressions in 3D? # If you only see what you have got is a mighty gift # Come with the Knowing in your *heart without a word # # If you only "hear the Truth" ringing in your *heart # You should only Be happy for you are still Alive # # If you only care to share to live in peace in mind # Be easy and simple and honest and fair to everyone... <---(bits of godo's song) # # *heart <== hear-T(ruth) Dear w1k0, I have tried the "Mint-10-julia-liveCD" and found it very nice. After I find out "how-to" of knoppix's "speech-dispatcher" I may move onto "Linux-Mint". But I haven't got "scim" working on knoppix yet. I haven't even set correct key-map for my gb-key-board at the moment. Btw: I have downloaded "Mint-manual" and quickly looked through just to stay the same puzzled novice! ( :banghead: ) "Happy New Year!" to all the friends of the Positive Thought,---godoten ( :) ) |
Why not try Simply Mepis? It is equally at home as a live CD or DVD as it is for permanent installation to the hard drive. Hardware compatibility is also quite good.
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I've got "Arch" to try next!
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I am putting the "Simply-Mepis" just after "Arch" (was suggested by MTK358) on my try-list as well. Thanks for the suggestion. So many nice distros? I love "linux" for so many people love and working on it! But how about the super intrusive "killer vaccine B.Gate's MS" come-in to check your computer as soon as you switch it on? Could they go on like that in future? I don't think so, do you?---godoten( :) ) --------------------------------------------------------------- 【Tenpage】by: Otomakas "No one have to die. Immortality is your life's possibility". http://tenpage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/en/welcome.html --------------------------------------------------------------- |
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upgrades and linux
If you have SuSE or Open SuSE and like it, the best thing to do is upgrade. Be sure to make sure that your multimedia (livna) repositories are kept intact.
Switching distros of Linux is a bit of a chore. You have to (at minimum) back up /home for your old distro. Then, you do a clean install of your new distro and restore everything back to the new distro. Hopefully, you saved all of your .rpm and tar.gz files for programs or applications you installed. Guess what?, its time to reinstall again. If you didn't save them, time to run around the whole Internet like an idiot to find them all over again. Of course, the applications you saved might not even work for the new distro, forcing you to find a different version anyway. I have nothing against Knoppix, but it is a pretty barebones distro, not unlike Puppy or DSL. SuSE and Mepis offer many more options and are much larger in size then Knoppix. Even if you start with a minimal install, you can always go up to a more full featured install later. Unless you have an old machine with a very small hard drive, go with a full sized distro. After all, its better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it. Fedora, especially the KDE spins, is also worth investigating if you want to switch distros. Most of the .rpm applications work flawlessly. SuSE would occassionly have problems with .rpm apps which didn't appear to be corrupt or damaged. |
The vaccination was "to infect" not "to prevent"!
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On a PC with Win2000Pro installed, I had a "InteligentGuard"(or something like that) installed. It pops screens up as soon as something want to connect to the PC and asks if I "allow it or not". With the experience I have learned "MicroSoft" come-in to check your computer as soon as you switch it on". Why I call B.Gate as "killer vaccine" is that He put HIV virus in their "(so claimed)vaccine against the HIV" to infect millions of African people. You might have head he was donating $100milion for health care of African people? But the vaccination was "to infect" not "to prevent", did you not know? He even said on TV, "vaccine is good to kill people..." or something of that effect!?( :eek: ) Or are they all are rumours? "Happy New Year!", to every one---godoten ( :) ) |
What does that have to do with "checking" your PC, whatever that means?
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I can only guess:
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I guess they want to check your Windows(OS) are legitimate or not, don't you think so? Dear mdlinuxwolf, Thanks for your advice! "Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten( ;) ) |
I think he means Windows Genuine (dis)Advantage ;)
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Read and write to and from win-ntfs?
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I mean "Legitimate dis-Advantage".( :D ) Btw: On "SUSE-10.2", I could not write into mounted win-ntfs though I could read out from it. I found that on "Knoppix-6.2", I could read and write to and from win-ntfs. Does anyone know if there is something I can do to get "SUSE-10.2" to be able to do the same? Thanks,---godoten( ;) ) Edited in after: I was talking to do so with "mc". I just thought it may be something to do with the setting for the "mc" I am using, do you think? I should have check it before I asked the question? I'm going to do so now if I can find out by myself. `man mc` <--'( :doh: ) |
NTFS & SuSE
You have to download additional packages to write NTFS and switch the option on. Go to YaST and under the package search, just type in NTFS. If something like NFTS-3g or a similar option appears install it.
Depending on your security, you may have to be root to write to NTFS. See if you file manager can be run as superuser mode. It might already work. |
I'm looking into `man ntfsprogs` now.
:hattip: Thank you mdlinuxwolf,
I've done following your instruction "YaST" with SUSE-10.2-DVD and installed "NTFSprogs". I'm looking into `man ntfsprogs` now. This program seems to do lots more than just read & write into & from NTFS. Suddenly, I am getting used to man page in these few days. I hardly can believe it. ( :rolleyes:..:study:....??..?...) If I want to use "mc" to do it I have to try the version of "mc" which does do it, I guess? I say "I have stacked with SUSE-10.2" but it does not mean I am unhappy about it. I found this system "rock steady state of art". I like the "konsole" on this one knowing they have made it meaner lately. I love making my own scheme for this "konsole". But one problem there is for me is that if I install "firefox-3.6.3" it's "preferences" popup window shows up "blank!" and can not configure anything. I guess some up-to-date lib-files & dependencies needed but I don't know what. I use old firefox and get told "your version is out dated and not supported :tisk:" at youtube.com.( :scratch: ) "Long Live!", everyone who love own creature being,---godoten ( :) ) --------------------------- `man ntfsprogs` says: --------------------------- *NTFSPROGS(8) NTFSPROGS(8) NAME ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things with NTFS OVERVIEW ntfsprogs is a suite of NTFS utilities based around a shared library. The tools are available for free and come with full source code. TOOLS mkntfs(8) - Create an NTFS filesystem. ntfscat(8) - Dump a file's content to the standard output. ntfsclone(8) - Efficiently clone, backup, restore or rescue NTFS. ntfscluster(8) - Locate the files which use the given sectors or clusters. ntfscmp(8) - Compare two NTFS filesystems and tell the differences. ntfscp(8) - Overwrite a file on an NTFS. ntfsfix(8) - Check and fix some common errors, clear the LogFile and make Win‐ dows perform a thorough check next time it boots. ntfsinfo(8) - Show information about NTFS or one of the files or directories within it. ntfslabel(8) - Show, or set, an NTFS filesystem's volume label. ntfsls(8) - List information about files in a directory residing on an NTFS. ntfsmount(8) - Read-write NTFS userspace driver. ntfsresize(8) - Resize NTFS without losing data. ntfsundelete(8) - Recover deleted files from NTFS. AUTHORS The tools were written by Anton Altaparmakov, Carmelo Kintana, Cristian Klein, Erik Sornes, Giang Nguyen, Holger Ohmacht, Lode Leroy, Matthew J. Fanto, Per Olofsson, Richard Russon, Szabolcs Szakacsits, Yura Pakhuchiy and Yuval Fledel. AVAILABILITY The ntfsprogs can be downloaded from: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/content/view/19/37 These manual pages can be viewed online at: http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ SEE ALSO libntfs-gnomevfs(8) ntfsprogs 1.13.1 April 2006 NTFSPROGS(8) |
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