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Originally Posted by rob.rice (Post 5698928)

are you serous
the code looks like an endless loop to me
I don't code in C but it looks to me that all your example dose is open window after
after window after window after window until the power switch is turned off

Code:

#include <gtk/gtk.h>



int main( int  argc,

          char *argv[] )

{

    GtkWidget *window;

    

    gtk_init (&argc, &argv);

    

    window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);

    gtk_widget_show  (window);

    

    gtk_main ();

    

    return(0);

}

I will give more infos about the code above so that it helps to experimentally study the output.

Most X11 or Motif applications (on simple -lX11, -lXm,...) are today outdated, nonsense,... for most of linux community.
Reason is shinning applications, like Windows or Mac does. It takes however resources on your system.
Ok, so far are you with me?

So, let's go further. The above example is a simple demo for making a GTK window of "Hello World". Very simple. If you may try to place this above code into a file and to compile it with gcc.
You will notice that you will need all those dependencies, many have no points to be installed, right?

Free Software Foundations is very clear on this matter. You try to focus on non proprietary software, i.e. open source (...) and to avoid to use libraries that will bound you in some matters.

On most debian-based systems, one can run apt-get to get to necessary libs to compile. apt-get to compile the above will results in the above packages, which is actually not according to the philosophy.

But, I think, that no one care at all about this problem....

Hi Guys,

You were so active about Systemd, I believed that I would have something to read for my day. What a cool debate about Systemd... ;)

I believed that I could read about FBI, Conspiracy against users, evil plots take control of the world,...and so on.

Herewith a cool picture.

Some people, I think, are very receptive to change. But others appear to think that, "if it was good enough for a PDP-7 at Bell Labs in the 1970's, it's still good enough today!"

Well, "like it or not, that's just not true."

Today, "the use case has fundamentally changed." Computer systems are no longer isolated. In fact, they might be virtual. And in any case, there might be many hundreds of them ... or, yes(!), thousands.

Features of systemd that are of no use whatsoever to "an individual Linux machine on the desk in your second bedroom" suddenly become very important when you are tasked with simultaneously managing hundreds or thousands of them, and when all of them are in "far-away places."

Face it: the "1970's metaphors" very-simply couldn't be carried forward. It wasn't an option anymore.

If "1970's metaphors" are still just fine with you, then ... "this is open source." There's nothing stopping you from implementing what you decide is best for you. And that's the beauty of it. :)

In theory, I like the CONCEPT of systemd. A faster, more efficient way of starting and stopping my machine.

It's the execution that I hate, for basically all the reasons already listed.

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5698028)

On most debian-based systems, one can run apt-get to get to necessary libs to compile. apt-get to compile the above will results in the above packages, which is actually not according to the philosophy.

But, I think, that no one care at all about this problem....

ok thats the dependence list for that source code got it now
in slack the packages are much larger we do the whole gttk libes in one package it's one way of getting around of not having dependence checking in the package

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