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@jamison20000e: It would definitely help us all to understand you if you would use the English grammar in your posts.
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In most texts of this sort, we do notice very-distinct changes of tone from one section to the next. These suggest that, over the course of these thousands of years, some "compiling" and probably rewriting must have been done. We don't know when, or by who. (It might even have been a committee.) Further complicating the issue are things like the Councils of Nicene, which were tasked with constructing a "canonical" Bible: the sixty-six books that we ... oops! the Catholic version is different ... and what to do with the leftovers. (Alas, a great many libraries were destroyed forever, just because they contained "heresy" according to someone with a match.) We know that the King James scholars (and every group since them) has dealt with multiple "original" sources, some of these being translations e.g. in Greek, and we know that they are different from one another. Like it or not ... "believe it" or not ... these are things that we know. "Deal with it." :) To answer the OP's original question, "we should presume that all of these books had many authors, and revisions, and (literally...) 'God only knows' :) what else," done to them before they wound up in our hands. We might live in "the information age," with SHA1 checksums and all-of-that, but our forefathers didn't. Therefore, if we attempt to hold these books up to the mythical standard of "TRVTH," well, I think that we're just being very unrealistic about it, in a way that is not wise. They are what they are, as they are. And, even though it seems that I might be in the minority here (?), this doesn't bother me at all. Study the books for what they are, warts and all, and know that the books themselves are really beside-the-point. "The Ancient of Days" has no failure to communicate. God has used rocks, donkeys, the wind, and shrubbery. "Seek, and you will Find." If, as many believe, He intended to convey a message "down through the ages," in spite of the frailties of the spoken and of the written word (and of countless scribes and committees) ... well, "He did, didn't He?" |
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You tell me: what is the authority keeping you from murdering for instance? Why is murder wrong? Quote:
Since you know so much more about science than I do, you tell me. Where does the world as we know it come from? In short, I want to know what the ultimate source of the world and everything in it is. Quote:
All but one of these men died for what they wrote.....if they admitted that they lied, they would've have been saved, and even treated with great honor. However, they suffered cheerfully and willingly for what they wrote, never admitting that they lied, even when under torture. Once again, would you be willing to die for a lie that you said; even if you would be given pardon for confessing? Quote:
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gods make haters i know or you really can't or won't understand that+ wow how about if i misspell more but say simple stuff like: heaven and hell are ONLY metaphors derr
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About a book of "god" equals... Dose "he\it(more likly an alien)" exist?
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Facts don't change but knowledge does, I wont blame grammar for that what I will question is how you come to your conclusion. I'll give you an example. Fact the Earth is sphere (well it is an prolate sphere). Knowledge (poorly constructed) in various periods of history said it was flat, maps showed it was flat, organisations with vested interests said it was flat, uneducated people (do not blame the bible for this rather blame organisations with vested interests) did not question what they were told. The fact that the earth is a sphere has not in any way, shape (get the pun), or form, changed, but knowledge has. How does the example relate to the OP? Some people believe Isaiah was written by one person. What evidence do they have of this? They say the book itself + other things that come to mind during the discussion. Others believe Isaiah was written by more than one person. What evidence do they have of this? They say the book itself + other things that come to mind during the discussion. Who'se right? who'se wrong? does it really, really, really matter? Some people will argue till they are blue in the face, they will not ever see the other side of the discussion yet expect the other side to see their argument. Until everybody enters these discussions with an open mind, I am yet to see evidence of this, these discussions are a back and forth that get no where. |
Faith is a word\knowledge-only(circles;)) and depending on 'your' changing religions...
Science is by flesh(only) and will never have all the answers, most if not all is po$turing some times at wanting to understand or fix. I simply rebel, except: love and death(although we try).(intertwined by hypocrisy and irony, for how ever long(?)edu) "Facts don't change": Quote:
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"Who'se right? who'se wrong? does it really, really, really matter?" Sacrificing virgins and education that's wrong, that's why religions evolve. Stopping before too many circles:) |
I don't get 95% of what you post at the best of times, that last post makes very little sense at all. Are you cross posting the same things on two threads? Confusing the discussion along the way by any chance?
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