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Dogs 05-20-2010 11:09 PM

S3801: US Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010
 
This is the swiss army knife of the tyrant.

The ability to abduct someone in plain view without recourse from the people.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso...t-of-2010.html

(pdf) http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...3081is.txt.pdf



SEC. 5. DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.

* An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities.

catkin 05-21-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogs (Post 3976107)
... may be detained without criminal charges and without trial ...

That's just so dangerous! It is a PR disaster and PR is the only effective solution to terrorism -- no amount of force is effective. And it is open to abuse and prone to error. Don't the legislators learn anything from history?

Dogs 05-21-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by catkin (Post 3976176)
That's just so dangerous! It is a PR disaster and PR is the only effective solution to terrorism -- no amount of force is effective. And it is open to abuse and prone to error. Don't the legislators learn anything from history?


I dunno if that was a realistic question or not, but I want to answer best I can anyhow.

Legislators don't do shit but what they're expected to do.

The true rulers have learned plenty from history..

Like, for example, the reason Germany failed at its attempt to take over is because it did not have the whole world in support of its mission.

We, on the other hand, have our own government, along with the rest of the world, cheering our demise.

H_TeXMeX_H 05-21-2010 04:45 AM

How come they only apply the Geneva Convention to the people and not the president or other high ranking members ? I guess they are above the law.

Dinithion 05-21-2010 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogs (Post 3976220)
We, on the other hand, have our own government, along with the rest of the world, cheering our demise.

You definitely havn't been in Europe.

Edit:
Or perhaps I didn't understand a hidden irony.

Dinithion 05-21-2010 07:07 AM

This actually reminds me of something that has annoyed me for over a year now. Obama worked as a professor and was a lecturer in constitutional law. Why is it then, now that he has the power, that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Blair and several other isn't prosecuted to the full extent of the law for their Iraq invasion? It turns out that in fact some people/animals ARE more equal then others. I don't respect Obamas background until he actually follow the law him self and at least make sure they are tried if not convicted.

Dogs 05-21-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinithion (Post 3976431)
This actually reminds me of something that has annoyed me for over a year now. Obama worked as a professor and was a lecturer in constitutional law. Why is it then, now that he has the power, that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Blair and several other isn't prosecuted to the full extent of the law for their Iraq invasion? It turns out that in fact some people/animals ARE more equal then others. I don't respect Obamas background until he actually follow the law him self and at least make sure they are tried if not convicted.

Actually, Mr. Soetoro may be the first one to get busted.


http://logisticsmonster.com/2010/05/...oetoro-guilty/


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