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Bigun 12-10-2003 03:48 PM

My opinion is this, eventually *ALL* desktops will look like this, Microsoft will be all over this before we know it. I say we should go ahead and snag it and get used to it. Besides, it looks uber-cool to me.

BTW, for anyone who thought that the CPU was running top of the line hardware......he was using a laptop, I don't know of any laptops that use the AMD Clawhammer just yet.

Skyline 12-10-2003 08:59 PM

......... its pretty clear that atleast some of this functionality will make it onto desktops soon - ( I'm looking forward to it too ....) - however - it seems to be more evolutionary than revolutionary - even with access to a nice 3d Tunnel in the background, at some point you'll still need a plain old 2d app taking up a large proportion of the screen to get conventional work done....... there will be other benefits though, and , well, good on Sun - nice

Speech Recognition is the real deal though - not specifically related to PC,'s etc - but a much wider field that encompasses all chiped devices........ here's to the 21st Century and all those devices we'll be talking to......

Whitehat 12-10-2003 09:01 PM

I like Pie

ezra143 12-10-2003 09:17 PM

Ok, so if this thing is in JAVA, then wont that really bring the whole idea of portability to the next step? Like working on your home computer from Singapore over a link on your website. Once we overcome bandwidth issues., of course. ( i know, it is never this simple)

I know anyone can come up with a ton of petential issues with this type of gui, but damn thats cool!

and " at some point you'll still need a plain old 2d app taking up a large proportion of the screen to get conventional work done.-Skyline"
With the size of the displays coming out, do you really think we will ever be working with only one app open and in the forefront? I rarely do now. Who needs Emacs 100% on a 21 inch lcd.

Just my 2 cents

Bigun 12-11-2003 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by ezra143
Ok, so if this thing is in JAVA
Meh, I don't think this thing is made in Java, I don't see an applet running that fast. I think that Java cup in the upper right corner was a plug. Then again, I may be wrong.

He said this was an innovation of open source ideas. Does anyone think this will remain open source like Gnome? If so, will M$ steal it if it takes off?......wait.....that shouldn't be an issue of "if".........but "when".

Bottom line IMHO, it looks cool, and I see a lot of people using this soon. I for one will do my best to be first in line!

andrewlkho 12-11-2003 12:37 PM

Now if you want a *really* good looking desktop, try mac osx :)

Bigun 12-11-2003 02:44 PM

Yeah, I heard Mac OS X looked good.

burnpile 12-11-2003 03:12 PM

http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php

from the site:
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3D-Desktop is an OpenGL program for switching virtual desktops in a seamless 3-dimensional manner on Linux. The current desktop is mapped into a fullscreen 3D environment where you may choose other screens. Several different visualization modes are available.

The transition from working desktop to fullscreen 3D environment is seamless. In other words when the pager activates you see your current desktop appear to zoom out to a point in space where you can see your other virtual desktops allowing you to select another. The best way to understand is to try it out and get the full effect!

scott_R 12-11-2003 05:03 PM

I agree that this will be the way desktops are heading. Of course, MS will "innovate" this in ten years or so, but that's not the point. This seems more functional than what we have now, IMO. Yes, you can resize windows and rearrange things, but there are plenty of times I want to have a window open...but not bad enough to have it take as much area as it does presently. I like that you can "angle" them, and the "notes" feature has potential. Also, the mini-window thing is nice. So far, if you resize a window, you tend to just slide the borders, meaning you lose your information from view if it's larger than the borders are.

As far as the hard to use part of it goes, this is newish stuff. Don't expect perfection right away, certainly not even before it's released to the public. Of course, you're free to use the older stuff if you prefer, but not everyone is perfectly happy with what seems fine right now. That's of what drives ingenuity, and it shouldn't be discouraged, but encouraged.

Lastly, I think this would be sweet, as a 3D desktop might open the doors to some creative people that design a good "glove" to drive such a system. The mouse is great, but it's getting a little long in the tooth. It would be nice to be able to work standing up or from a little distance with a wireless glove that works well. Add in speech recognition (as was previously said), and maybe a lightweight wireless monitor(?), and you can hang the thing up on the wall and work while you're running on your treadmill, cooking dinner, or even rocking the baby to sleep. (Okay, there are a lot of things to work out with this idea, but you get the drift.)

Bigun 12-11-2003 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by scott_R

Lastly, I think this would be sweet, as a 3D desktop might open the doors to some creative people that design a good "glove" to drive such a system. The mouse is great, but it's getting a little long in the tooth. It would be nice to be able to work standing up or from a little distance with a wireless glove that works well. Add in speech recognition (as was previously said), and maybe a lightweight wireless monitor(?), and you can hang the thing up on the wall and work while you're running on your treadmill, cooking dinner, or even rocking the baby to sleep. (Okay, there are a lot of things to work out with this idea, but you get the drift.)

I was thinking this at work, headgear and VR gloves to move windows around, very Johnny Nuemnonic-ish. Now I don't see that kind of technology hitting home, but I see it being very useful in surgery or in AutoCad-like applications.

Baldorg 12-11-2003 06:33 PM

I want more keyboard shortcuts. What annoys me in GNOME is that I can't change workspaces with my mouse wheel.

Brain Drop 12-11-2003 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Baldorg
I want more keyboard shortcuts. What annoys me in GNOME is that I can't change workspaces with my mouse wheel.
changing desks with mouse wheel is one of my favorite things with enlightenment, what other ones do it?

Azmeen 12-12-2003 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by Brain Drop
changing desks with mouse wheel is one of my favorite things with enlightenment, what other ones do it?
XFce does it... just hover your mouse over an uncovered portion of the desktop and scroll to the next workspace.

Bigun 12-12-2003 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Baldorg
I want more keyboard shortcuts. What annoys me in GNOME is that I can't change workspaces with my mouse wheel.
*blink* Good Lord!!! That would annoy the holy crap outta me.

Mouse wheel aside, I do agree with the keyboard shortcuts thing.

ChasidishHarry 12-14-2003 03:29 PM

Re: OMG! Please everyone check this out!
 
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Originally posted by Bigun
This has got to be the most beautiful desktop enironment I've *ever* seen.
SWEET!


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