Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011
 

here we go guys lets all contact congress and get this bill passed
here is the news story about this
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18340026
here is where you can contact your congress person
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT OUR SUPPORT!!!

They Prohibited MaryJane in 2011?


I do not use recreational drugs nor abuse prescribed drugs and I don't believe anyone ought to either. Saying that I too feel it may be time for a different approach.

I'd make everyone get a license to use marijuana. Each year they'd have to spend a Friday or Saturday night in an Emergency Room. They should know first hand the cost of drug use. Make them pay $150 each year for it. No tests, no studying just let them see the blood shed. If you want to play you got to pay.

??? not so fast. Ask any cop ,they will tell you, that alcohol is far FAR worse that weed
how many bar fights are there with ONLY weed ?
Answer = 0 ( a few broken tv's from "pong" )
with alcohol = to many to count

how many car accidents involve speeding and alcohol
Answer = most
from only stoned on weed and speeding = 0
stoned drivers DRIVE slow very s l o w

sorry to inform you
but
this is just a part of a black market
the blood shed comes from the drugs being illegal
so the people who should see this are the people supporting keeping drugs illegal

Just visit Santa Clara, CA and you'll find hundreds of "medical" marijuana shops. I do not like the way that this is going.

Weed is far less addictive and dangerous than cigarettes, so I don't see why it is such a problem for people... in fact it is one of the least addictive and dangerous of the addictive drugs.

True ,unless you fall for the misinformation and out right lies in things like "reefer-madness" .
or the " just say no" campaign

but this is America the land of "? choice ?" ( as long as you do what the govt. orders you to do, because a "big business told the govt. to. )

IMHO - all drugs should be avoided but then again given a choice grass is a _lot_ better than alcohol or tabacco.
BTW:- Legalisation of grass potientially could be the first step to world peace :)

Marijuana should not even be considered a drug. It's a PLANT.

How many other drugs are 100% natrual? NONE OF THEM.

Marijuana is not only a recreational drug. Until the end of the 19th century it was an effective medicinal drug for a wide variety of conditions. Sales of marijuana-based medicinal drugs made up a substantial proportion of sales. Marijuana's effectiveness/side-effects balance is better than many of the replacements used today.

Marijuana is also one of the best fibre, bio-mass and oil crop plants in terms of yeild and utility. It grows on marginal soils without depleting them. As petroleum oil runs out, the price of synthetic fibres increases and plant fibre becomes more important. As oil runs out, bio-mass is a replacement. It is such a useful crop that the US government had a program during World War II to promote large-scale growing. Henry Ford worked on engine design and plantations for marijuana-derived fuel.

As a recreational drug marijuana is relatively benign. It is less dangerous than the world's most commonly used recreational drug, alcohol. The fact of its illegality in many countries gets it lumped with all illegal drugs; it is not in the same league as opiates etc. but is often confused with them.

Given these facts, how did we end up where we are now? The root cause was commercial interests. Marijuana threatened the petroleum oil and pharmaceutical companies profits. They campaigned to have it made illegal and succeeded, helped by newspapers of the Hearst group which demonised it. The US government then pressured foreign governments into following suit.

Well most ARE 100% natural or derived form 100% natural source
opium is one in it's RAW form fairly mild
Coca leaves in ( as a leaf tea or chewed or ground into a flour ) is about as stimulating as tea and coffee
- coca tea and flour are exports of Peru

Yeah they sell coca leaves in South America ... their effect of course is not that of purified cocaine, they act as a mild analgesic. Technically, today nearly all the local anesthetics used in medicine are derived from cocaine, ex: lidocaine, procaine, etc. (they all have the -caine ending).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_anesthetic

However, I do not use any drugs, unless there is a reason for it. Most pharmacies still keep the original and appropriate symbol of medicine: the snake and the staff, this means that drugs are both poison and crutch ... use them with discretion and with reason. They can help when you need it, and hurt when you abuse them.

Be that as it may ... every time I'm visiting Apple I spend time looking through the local rags in the Bay Area, and "medical" is a tremendous sham. There are hundreds of these "clinics" around town. I see no good coming from a nation-wide continuation of this trend.

Full disclosure: I lost three family members to smoking. I watched them die, one by one. I saw what was (and is) widely touted as a "recreational pleasure," and I spent years of my life warning each one of them what surely was to come. And then, I watched helplessly as the trap snapped shut as I knew it would, and dragged them under. The legislators ultimately saw only the taxes and the bribes. They never watched lives that were quite beloved to me being destroyed. Yes, each one of my loved ones did voluntarily start themselves down that pathway by a singular foolish decision. Then, addiction set in. They were destroyed, and I paid a dear financial price in this country that provides no health care for its citizens. That is always going to color my perspectives on such things. I'm going to stop now before the tears come back.

So dont shop in them. Problem ?

Although I said what I did, I do NOT support drug abuse. Use drugs when you need them and responsibly.

I doubt smoking _anything_ can be considered responsible behavior, but if you only harm yourself then you should be free to do it

You're right, smoking anything has negative health effects because the smoke damages your lungs no matter what kind of smoke it is. I would never smoke anything either.

Basing a moral argument on the fact that people sicken themselves doesn't gel with me (not addressing anyone particularly). Everyone dies and how quickly they do it is largely a personal medical concern. In aggregate, it is a public health concern so it comes under the purview of public policy--which is exactly why this bill should pass. Bringing weed properly under the same regulation as other medicines solves most of the problems people have with it.

The problem of illegal activity surrounding the procurement and distribution of marijuana would disappear and the illegal imports would virtually cease if marijuana were legalized.

What are you smoking? Salvia, shrooms and peyote are commonly considered drugs and they are "natural". Besides that, marijuana is frequently mixed, spliced, cultivated, and concentrated. Pretty much everything is a drug when you think about it: beer, coffee, trainers, chicken nuggets. The distinction is almost irrelevant.

How about this for a realistic advertising slogan?

"Tobacco -- because it gives so little and takes so much."

Good luck getting cannabis prohibition overturned. I'd like to see it happen, but I dont think it will.

I'd love to know how much you would get people who alcohol, tobacco, car, firearms, fireworks (etc) to pay, and how long you would get them to volunteer at a hospital for.

Cannabis causes very little in the way of bloodshed, and what it is connected with is due to the illegal stauts of cannbis, not the drug itself.

IMO its better to have the stores being legal, with the consumer protection, rights, etc. that goes along with that than for it to be an illegal business that doesnt pay tax or have any way of the communtiy controlling the sales.

Smoking cananbis is not anywhere near the same as smoking cigarettes. I know people who have quit heroin cold turkey, but have huge problems quitting ciggies. Cigarettes are one of the hardest habits to break, quitting weed (for almost everybody) is fairly easy.

BTW, you dont have to smoke cannabis. Eating and/or drinking cannabis works as well as smoking does (with the caveat that does can be harder to control), but its not used widely due to increased amounts of cannabis needed (about twice as much needs to be eaten or drunk to gain the same effect as smoking). Drinking has its own issues, the main way to get cannabinoids out of cannabis is with alcolhol (soaking in'everclear' is the main way in the US AFAIK). Eating is less of an issue, you need to bind the cannabinoids to fat (butter is the most popular way).

The main reason why people dont eat more is due to costs, and the process for creation of canabutter (its _really_ stinky). Decriminalisation or legalisation of cannabis should drop costs a huge amount, and make eating or drinking cannabinoids more viable. Also, vapourisation is becoming more popular due to (perceived and probably real) lowering of the risks of smoking.

Original and appropriate symbol of medicine? The rod of Asclepius? LOL. Interesting take on the cult of Asclepius, probably someone dwelt tom long on the greek word pharmakon.

Its hardly going to be the original symbol of medicine. The Egyptians, Harappans and Babylonians all had knowledge of medicine, written languages and symbology. They would have had symbols and words for medicine well before the Dorians even entered Greece, let alone started playing with medicine.

Tobacco is for sure the most addictive of the legal drugs.
This was a chart I was looking for that illustrates this:
http://www.saferchoice.org/safercolo...p_image003.gif

Well, most people cite Hippocrates as the founder of medicine ... so I was going on that. It's true that it is my interpretation, but I think it is accurate.

Just so you know, I never take any drug unless there is reason to. I don't take antibiotics, unless I have to. I don't take pain killers almost ever. I have never smoked or done any addictive drug, nor will I ever. I am also against smoking in public areas. However, people can do whatever they want at home, and I think it is better in most cases to have a legal drug that can be controlled, than an illegal one that just supports the mafias and other illegal activities.

It might; some strong winds of political change are beginning to blow. This from an Avaaz mailing today

The laws have been wrong all these years. Legalize Reefer and outlaw Tobacco...don't bogart that joint my friend!

25 or older and end killing\war\stupidity!!!
 

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5138507I'll let this slide because it was so long ago you probably know by now MJ won't\can't kill if used properly i.e, aside from lung cancer in the olden days MJ does not have to be burned anymore.

Edits to come as I read past my impulse posts: (I'm not sorry! :D)

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Largely we will all die more so thanks to industrialism+ ah thank you! Again, not that I hold anything against such a (gel lol) old (smart) post.

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Whoa! Apparently nobody here is familiar with "Charlotte's Web" originally called "Hippies Disappointment". This is a strain that was evolved by a family of brothers in Colorado for the expressed purpose of increased oils and decreased THC content. It can be smoked, which does have the advantage of making it easier for some people to control dosage, or the oil can be extracted and put in food or used as an elixir.

This strain has amassed such a track record of stopping seizures in people, especially children (it got it's present name from a young girl whose life was saved by it) that there are so many people moving to Colorado from states where cannabis is still illegal, that they also have a name - Marijuana Refugees, because if they were to return to their homes, they would be jailed and their sick children taken from them to Social Services. It is also one reason why this proposed legislation came from Colorado.

There are centuries of solid evidence of the medicinal value of cannabis, not to mention the value of hemp, and there is also evidence of some harm through irresponsible use. This is also true of acetominophen and ibuprofen and most other over-the-counter medicines. It is also true of a hammer, or a knife.

Personally, I have no use for it. I tried it for Fibromyalgia and it mainly makes me sleepy but maybe there will one day be a strain made that alleviates pain and doesn't have that side-effect. However even if that never comes to pass, I hope this legislation passes so that at least the work can continue and families right now can get cheap, effective medicine for glaucoma, nausea, strokes and other seizures and whatever else this natural resource can provide.

How things have changed in this country since 2011!

True, and my fault for not mentioning it sooner: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5138642

It would just be another thing to get millions of people "hooked" on smoking, as they decimated their lungs in a new and a different way.

This is simply untrue. As I stated above some of the most useful compounds are in the oil and can be tabletized or put in food. For those few who can or prefer to take advantage of the other compounds, vaporizers are capable of only pulling off the volatile gasses and NOT burning anything, stems, seeds, or leaves.

OK. All for it. Funny thing is. All the white folks use the law to control Latinos in my state. Law enforcement survives on seizures. We be one of the biggest prison system
states if not the biggest in the country.

Jobs, The cotton industry (Hemp is a competitor), the paper industry and logging industry, oil, gas, white folks in general, are all hurdles and hoops to jump through
in my state. Hell, they even do redistricting to control voting here besides ID laws and such. We be Good Old Boys here.

BTW. I'm a white dude. :D

I am all for growing whatever I want in my garden. Peyote, Mushrooms, Cannabis. It used to be legal to make your own liquor till the rich white boys got upset about it. All because they could not make money on it.

I thought this was a free country till all the rich white dudes with their panties wound up too tight decided how I should live.

I think every one against this should spend a weekend in general population in a 250 man squad bay in federal prison and explain why they are against legalizing
what threw these guys into prison.

so to speak. God I wish people would get a clue and grow up. Drug laws are about racism and bigotry and I am aware enough to recognize this. Because I am a 1% in a
Hispanic community. I can watch a Latino kid in cuffs while the police chiefs son is sent home on the same charge.


More kids are gunned down or wreck their cars and kill themselves texting. Inner city people of color don't count
as babies/kids when their parents are torn from them and forced to live in poverty.

The drug war is wrong and anyone with 1/2 a brain and,or, is a person of color knows that. It is a industry with lots of dollars involved for a certain
class of Americans. Oliver North proved that long ago.
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB...B2/nsaebb2.htm

Sheesh.

I have Asthma and it does help, after twenty years on and off (weed) I think I'd know. If I'd ever use it again I'd vaporize it like said^ and the following links but due to legality's and work here I don't enjoy benefits of any drug other than Albuterol and that is only for attacks and sucks (no pun.) Cannabis (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC,) as well as other related compounds) can be altered to remove recreational effects for different treatments unlike oxycontin and such. :banghead: Now that it's getting legal places they are making concentrated oils^ and other there's even lip balm or skin lotions to get effects. I also support it recreationally as a safer alternative and to fix frivolous "law$," I felt safer and enjoyed it more than anything. Not to say that someone abusing drugs will be safe but why do they abuse drugs??? Not because they are or aren't avalabal!!!

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For one, you can cut out the smoke. The most common pharmaceutical method of treating asthma attacks is through the use of corticosteroids delivered through inhalers that vaporize the medication. Asthma patients may also be familiar with a nebulizer, which is a tabletop machine that does the same thing. Sound familiar? Cannabis vaporizers have been improving in quality and growing in popularity. Some are sleek and pocketable for treatment on the go and are generally considered to be a safer alternative to smoking. When THC is delivered through a vaporizer, it still has the almost immediate bronchial dilation effects without the harmful smoke. Vaporizing cannabis isn’t really all that different from the current accepted treatments, just with what may be a more effective drug.

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/v...stionID=000132
http://www.truthonpot.com/2013/05/11...fits-vs-risks/

Let's get our facts straight!

"Moderate Marijuana Use Does Not Impair Lung Function, Study Finds" New York Times, January 11, 2012

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...gs-study-finds

But if smoking is a concern (it is possible that future studies will overturn our current medical evidence), you have the alternative to vaporize it, or you can take it orally or as a suppository. (While putting it up your *** might sound strange, it is actually very useful for medical patients with extreme nausea who can't keep food down.)

Or, hemorrhoids maybe cancer? (LOL sorry don't mean to haha but*)

Wait a minute! I just thought of an argument why drugs that grow as a plant and require no refining should be kept illegal! Without that, how are governments going to raise fast (and hidden) cash to finance illegal "police actions" in other countries and suppress "undesirables"?

If you didn't guess already my tongue is firmly in cheek and eyes rolling. Justice may be blind but not in the right way. Laws are not applied equally as they should be.

Oh they'd find other way$ but it sure would help and explains why it's taking $o long. Just found some texts on that subject (the first ones a good read:) ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...-black-market/

We can make alcohol anywhere, here (WI) legally. I use apple concentrate and a wine-making-yest, tastes like a good beer. Not sure if stills are "allowed" but I only like a beer or mixed-drink a couple times a month if that (less if safer more enjoyably to me alternatives were legal but they profit too much for that.) Seems crazy to me to legalize most substances like they should and then say you can't make or grow them or at lest get a permit? I'd like to make Marijuana+pasta ++ and some caramels ++ for desert but oh well ;) at lest I can still grow chives and tomatoes for now at some point they may decide they are loosing to much money on the genetically altered stuff and say among other s*** "people can't be trusted to grow their own safe foods!" This kinda reminds me of the power companies that want to charge solar and wind users because by making their own power "their not helping to up keep the grid" ah their feeding the grid you {names called!}
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ing-for-solar/

:Edits x2. :)

Simple as a plant: http://youtu.be/UWNo6W1ZNDk . . . my nephew (picture in my blog :)) at ten years old now is going for another MRI tomorrow to see if the mass causing double vision and headaches is a blood clot or his second run at this F-ing **** called cancer?!?


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Didn't Eddie Murphy release a song about this in 1982?

I would have thought it would be far better to legalise it and then you can slap enormous taxes on it, like they do on tobacco and alcohol in my country.

It'$ evolving... ;)

WOW 3 posts in an 8 yea old thread and not one of the self appointed
netiquette police have bitched about necro posting

Well, rob rice, it ain't like The War on Drugs is over and on top of that restrictions on growing anything have even increased. Apparently most of us are so stupid and inept we need parents until the day we die, and some suppose even after death.... well that's their story and they're sticking with it as long as the money keeps rolling in.