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unSpawn 03-07-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex_Dc (Post 3888829)
(..) find you remarkably irritating. (..) learn to shut your mouth (..) stupidity.

Please try and keep LQ a fun place to be for everybody, OK? Besides, if you have something kill-filtered then aren't you supposed to just ignore it at all times anyway?..

unSpawn 03-07-2010 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3888802)
i just remapped

Smeeze, you well know you've been asked before to do some remapping of your own. While this is the /General forum where off-topic, non-technical small talk is allowed, your mindless gabbing at times is something LQ can do without. So please keep it in check, OK?

easuter 03-07-2010 05:55 AM

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On most keyboards it's OK to pop off the keys. In fact, occasionally I pry off all the keys on my keyboard with a flat-head screwdriver and wash them in a sink full of soapy water. I haven't come across a keyboard whose keys won't come off harmlessly, but I heard that it could damage certain keyboards.
Yeah, most off-the-shelf keyboards can be dismantled pretty easily to be cleaned or tinkered with.
There are exceptions to look out for: the Das Keyboards for example are a pain to clean because removing the keycaps can damage the mechanical switches. The manual suggested using compressed air and shaking the keyboard around upside-down to get the grit out :rolleyes:.

MTK358 03-07-2010 06:31 AM

I don't know how typewriters work, but maybe they are staggered so that a bar can reach from the center of each key to the top of the keyboard. (still typing in Dvorak, very slowly)

EDIT: reminded me of this: http://www.dvzine.org/zine/index.html

Alex_Dc 03-07-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK358 (Post 3889089)
I don't know how typewriters work, but maybe they are staggered so that a bar can reach from the center of each key to the top of the keyboard. (still typing in Dvorak, very slowly)

EDIT: reminded me of this: http://www.dvzine.org/zine/index.html

In early typewriters, this made a lot of sense, but in later typewriters, it would have been easy enough just to add a little slanted tabby at the top of the type-bar to align the keys in a gridded format. It seems like it would have been a great marketing point to:

"Easier to type with! Easier on the hands!"

But maybe no one bothered to try and improve their product, I really don't know for sure. It seems completely nonsensical to me, but, well, since when has the corporate world ever made much sense! :D

The comic was fun, though. I liked the little Linux pengiun.


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Originally Posted by unSpawn (Post 3888928)
Please try and keep LQ a fun place to be for everybody, OK? Besides, if you have something kill-filtered then aren't you supposed to just ignore it at all times anyway?..

Sorry, I just always feel I have to keep a watch on the guy whenever I see he makes a post, or some poor, unsuspecting newbie to LQ might actually take him seriously.

But on another point, I understand your warning, but must protest that if you are warning me to not make nasty posts, you should also be warning him:

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3888727)
Since when are we all talking about some d****k who knows keyboard just to learn how type again, considering there is no real advantages.

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3888802)
i just remapped my keyboard to ABCD.
BTW it took forever to type this message!

His posts are not just inane, but downright insulting. And this is just considering my thread.

MTK358 03-07-2010 08:00 AM

@Alex Dc

What are those posts from smeezekitty even about?

Alex_Dc 03-07-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK358 (Post 3889146)
@Alex Dc

What are those posts from smeezekitty even about?

He's mocking the fact that we are using a different keyboard layout.

But I apologize, again, to unSpawn, I must have scrolled right past the post where you addressed Smeeze. Thank you.

MTK358 03-07-2010 11:14 AM

And I haven't heard that an ABCD keyboard is supposed to be better.

smeezekitty 03-07-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK358 (Post 3889287)
And I haven't heard that an ABCD keyboard is supposed to be better.

Thats exactly the point.
There is really no advantages from switching from qwerty.
And i got annoyed from this is better then that posts so i posted something annoying back.

MTK358 03-07-2010 12:14 PM

But it says that Dvorak is supposed to be better, and I do agree that the letter placement feels more comfortable. So when I can I switch the layout and type stuff, like right now, and I will see if I get used to it and like it.

Dogs 03-07-2010 02:01 PM

I love QWERTY for general typing.. Punctuation marks are right where I want them, numbers are out of the way, the letter controls are all setup so I can control them with my left pinky.

The point when it gets difficult is typing special chars like ()[]{}\/:";' because my right pinky has been broken too many times to actually stretch over there. I've been curious about a new keyboard design, especially one that would make it easier to type symbols for programming languages.

Those are routinely the only typing errors I'll make. Everything's flowing perfectly, then I type [ instead of ], then backspace, then [ instead of ] again you know.. It's poor positioning for those charaters. I think a smaller spacebar would be better, because you could move those chars to the spacebars level.

I only use my left thumb to space anyhow, so I could use the right for the punctuation. (either that, or replace the rightshift key which I never use either.)

Alex_Dc 03-07-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3889335)
Thats exactly the point.
There is really no advantages from switching from qwerty.
And i got annoyed from this is better then that posts so i posted something annoying back.

No one is making "this" vs "that" posts. We were discussing different keyboard layouts. There was no quarelling or negativity until your comments were made. No one addressed or attacked you. Your comments were completely unprovoked, unwarranted, and immature (not to mention unwanted).

And aside from that, there is siginifigant scientific evidence that suggests Dvorak is eaiser on the hands of the typist. You don't want to believe it? Fine: I don't care, your entitiled to your own opinion. You want to share that opinion? Fine: This is an open forum. But do it in a mature way. "I don't think there is any evidence to suggest using a keyboard layout other than QWERTY has any advantages." Want to argue your views? Fine, post some evidence: I'm always up for some constructive critism. But, at the risk of action by a moderator: I will reiterate a again: your posts were nothing more than meaningless, negative stupidity.

Finally, if you were so annoyed by the subject matter of the thread, then why did you even bother to post?

smeezekitty 03-07-2010 03:36 PM

The original top of the thread was " affordable non-staggered keyboard ".
I will not post any more in this thread since it will just make a pointless flamewar worse.

MTK358 03-07-2010 03:45 PM

And there wasn't any flamewar until you came along and startem mocking us.

Alex_Dc 03-07-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK358 (Post 3889508)
And there wasn't any flamewar until you came along and startem mocking us.

Thank you. But, frankly, I'm just glad he's gone. :)

Still using Dvorak?


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