Video Authoring Application of the Year
 

A new category this year.

--jeremy

Never tried copying a dvd until last night. Based on a suggestion on an LQ thread, I used "k9copy." Success! Too bad it's not on the list.

Jeremy, i'm a little confused. Why is Maya here? I believe its a complete solution for Animation/Modelling/Rendering/Texturing/Dynamics in your DCC(digital content creation) work. I work on it daily. It's not a video editor.

It is a complete solution for those things, but we don't have a category for that. I'd say it fits better here than in any other category.

--jeremy

Well if you say so. Remember Maya is way superior to all those combined, I vote Maya.

I would have put it in the same category as blender if it were me.

Just got a new cam for Christmas :)

My box has been Windows free for over two years, but I had to install it again next to Slackware recently.

Why?

Because video authoring on Linux sucks big time. I can't even capture videos from my cam via firewire. I tried everything...I beat myself up over it for days, spent hours upon hours Googling for solutions, read pages and pages of documentation, but I just couldn't get it to work. Installed Windows and everything worked beautifully right out of the box.

People keep trying to tell me that my fireware card or cable are defective, but that can't be true because they work perfectly in Windows.

None of the apps above compare to the likes of Adobe Premiere, Ulead VideoStudio, or even Windows Movie Maker. They're fun and simple to use and they make fantastic home videos with hardly any effort.

Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, I love Slackware, but when it comes to video authoring, Linux leaves me sorely, sorely disappointed.

Dang, I hate being forced to dual boot with Windows again :(

Kino is the only video capture/edit app I've found that actually works and is worth the effort to configure. In regard to the previous reply, you might give Kino another shot before capitulating.

Can't really vote as I haven't tried any of the apps listed here.

i have always been partial to devede. there is no program simpler for dvd making. I think it is unfair having Maya in there.it does way more than all of these.

Never used any of these....

I'm dissapointed from most of these apps and especially on this category for linux since non of them either just didn't work or dind't fit my needs. But as an overall I would go for avidemux

LiVES all the way! :D

mencoder
 

I believe you should include mencoder. I've used it to rip all my dvd.

mencoder here too.
Also k9copy.

k9copy for DVD backup/ripping, and Kdenlive for video editing. Kino's good, too, so I'll vote for it since neither of the others are available for vote.

Next year, how about a DVD backup (or maybe Ripping tool) category?

avidemux... simply and doas the job for me even if I don't have a clue about video editing...

How about the front-ends to dvdauthor?

Kdenlive would be my vote but it's not included.

I personally like MainActor the most, but it is not free. It does run on linux (natively), though, and it seems to support capturing from camera's :).

People wanting mencoder-- most of these apps are listed are frontends to mencoder, transcode, vamps etc that's what you're voting for... the apps that make managing and using these programs the easiest.

My vote strongly goes for tovid, it is the most powerful tool in this category that I have used, and that includes proprietary windows software. With it's tovid-batch, makemenu, makexml, makedvd, and more importantly the ability to do what you want from the encoder of your choice without at the same time having to micromanage ffmpeg, transcode, mencoder etc is sweet. The man pages are excellent, and it's a great solution for an all-in-one suite.

My only complaints are that there is still clearly alot of work for the developers to do. And the gui frontend doesn't offer nearly as much options as the cli does.

I haven't used all of those listed, but so far, my preferred app is DeVeDe also.

Kino - relatively trouble free and simple to use.

transcode
 

i cant vote on any of these since i have never used them.

i use a nautilus script i created that uses transcode (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=510861) so i would vote for that.

thanks,

its a crying shame DeVeDe is not on this list. this my complete solution for making dvd movies viewable on a standard dvd player. I just tried Maya. Its unfair to have it in this poll. This is an awesome app.

if u can include maya , u can include blender too

So where is transcode/mencoder/mjpegtools and those other commandline tools?

Would vote for that.

Cinelerra deserves way more credit than it gets. You can do some really cool stuff with it. It takes some doing to learn, but there are tutorials and if you follow them it isn't too bad.

To the guy who installed Windows just for video editing .... maybe you better check your Firewire chipset -- a few don't work with Linux, most do. I will soon buy a dual-boot laptop for video editing, but I plan to do that in Linux, not Windows!

Cinelerra isn't perfect, but it has a large set of the features of the costly commercial products .... and for free/open source. Wow!!!

the only thing close on that list to mencoder/transcode is avidemux2 (svn all the way) for editing its svn all the way stable to me aren't good enought :D and svn just seems more stable lol.
for cam its kino or mencoder(mplayer). cine and lives are really diffrent types of video editing .

I agree, Cinelerra is a lot better than what it is voted for. Kino is horrible for editing. Avidmux is the same as Kino. Cinelerra from Heroine Virtual Ltd. is not stable, but Cinelerra CVS is very stable. Though I have to convert videos to a lossless MJPEG or use MPEG-2 videos which is no big deal.

Maya, CinePaint, tovid, LiVES do not fit well in this group. Maya is for 3D rendering. CinePaint is for single picture 16-bit per color channel (48-bit color) editing. tovid is for helping creating DVD video discs. LiVES just does not work and it is not easy.

i think mencoder should be included as well

i am using my own ruby-gnome GUI for it

its not as great as avidemux2 (which is my personal favourite)
but its still nice :-)

So which application is nearest to Windows Movie Maker? Also, which is the one with simplest user interface for newbies and can save in wmv format?

Jahshaka another alternative
 

How about Jahshaka? http://www.jahshaka.org/

Do people have experience with this Cinelerra alternative.
I have seen mixed reviews

Thanks Emmanuel_uk others can just add in more answers

Jahshaka needs some time
 

It is just too immature. There are just too many things that are broken when you install. I think when the community has time to smooth out the bugs Jahshaka will be one of the top video editing and post production programs in the OSS community. It may very well be the only true RTE video editing and post production program.

actually i'm still waiting to see or to know a "standard" gui app for these sorts of things in linux ... like imovie for macos running with little ram and lesser powered processors(by todays standards) ... or something like ulead(just the limited edition is more than enough) for win 95/98 on p1/p2(not to mention the detail spec) ...

let me know and forget about the those "quasi" gui cum commandline linux app , these are really weird for the tasks ...



//a bit urgent ... ^_^


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Tried MainActor ?

kino, but adobe premiere pro is the ONLY reason i have a windows machine still.

Try Cinelerra CVS. It is reliable enough to use on a daily basis. The only two problems are videos have to be converted to either a lossless MJPEG (include the lavcodec option hq while using mencoder) or DV in order to edit them and it is pig on resources while rendering or compiling the video which takes a long time than other non-linear editing. Cinelerra CVS works fine on my Pentium 4 2GHz (Northwood core) with a gigabyte of RAM (RAMBUS type).

These days, processor prices keeps on dropping, so there is no excuses of getting a better setup.

I will try Jahshaka and see if it can handle some simple editing with out fussing around converting to other video codecs.

BTW, there is Piave, a non-linear script effect and video render, and Kdenlive that works as a front end to Piave. Unfortunately, the two projects have stopped in 2004.

Kdenlive is under heavy development. Dan Dennedy who started the Kino project is focusing on Kdenlive's backend and thus might not be developing Kino past 1.0

>> "Tried MainActor ?"

thats a good one and it runs very well ... somehow it reminds me of streamclip ...

infact i dont mind the water-mark , but hell , its at the center and its a big big one ... ^_^ , wish its smaller and at the bottom right ...


//any other like that for linux ... ??

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I like Mainactor too =). I actually got the full version. The thing that I like the most is that the key you get also works on the windows version. Saved me the trouble of looking for a good video-editing program on that OS.

you switched to windows ... ??


//have just hookup a 19" specially for this app ... 21" is too big for my desktop , afraid that my youngest son might climb onto it and play batman(or spiderman) ...


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I'm running a dual-boot system because there doesn't seem to be a great application on Linux to create music that works for me (LMMS is cool, but not professional enough (yet)). On Windows I use Cubase. I guess I should get jack to work with my Tascam US-122 so I can try Ardour, but so far jack always refused working. On the other hand, we also keep one Windows installation for those moments school requires you to use Windows software that doesn't run on Linux. Although wine does a great job at emulating those apps, it doesn't always work. And another reason: my father, as a sysadmin, sometimes needs to check if something (a VPN connection, for example) runs on Microsoft's OS. I don't think our neighbours would like to be bothered with that time after time =). Nevertheless, we only boot to Windows about once a month, and even my mother uses Linux ;).

guess that you know my taste ... i have a look at their sreens shot ... seems as good as they sound , i will try it when i'm in ubuntu ...

btw ... not to disapoint you for not trying to learn anything ... any other even more simpler then that ... you know , simple recording and importing , those rows , the overlapping(with simple "effects") of clips between the rows , cutting , throwing them all over the place , squeezing , inflating and exporting to a few general sound formats ... nowadays a well "populated" app should be ok but without the unnecessary drag of gnome or kde stuffs would be the best ...


//i will try lmms first ...


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[WAIT ::] >> "even my mother uses Linux ..."

my mother she was collecting records while everyone else were dancing some sort of agogo in high noon tea clubs ... ^_^


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hi everyone,
I don't need any 'hardcore' or advanced stuff, just something like Windows Movie Maker, but for Linux. Just simple effects, cutting and pasting,etc... Which of these is what I need?

Extreme Coder

i found lives can do the simple way ... its quite good actually ...


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Avidemux will probably do what you need :)

By the way DVDStyler is also pretty good, its a pity is wasn't in the poll.

Where was blender?

It does animations and such quite well (plus it supports audio). I can't use it too well but I like the parts I can use :P

I guess I should have whined earlier when voting was open :P
Maybe it could be on the poll next year, which I hope I'm not too late for... hehe