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Mandrake 10 Beta 2
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Description: A report more than a review of an experience with beta 2
Keywords: mandrake 10 beta 2

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Old 02-12-2004, 07:51 AM   #1
Registered: May 2003
Distribution: kubuntu 8.10
Posts: 593

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Would you recommend the product? no | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 5

Pros: encouraging
Cons: big problems

<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><FONT SIZE=5>Mandrake 10 B2 testing</FONT></P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">I've installed the second installment
of Mandrake 10 Beta and it looks good and bad in the same time :</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>Install:</B></P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">USB doesn't work during install which
means that the mouse is unusable (so much for the graphical
installer) and that my USB printer doesn't get a chance of being
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Fortunately, I use a conventional
keyboard that works fine during the install. The mouse becomes
normally active after the first boot. It's disappointing since the
problem wasn't there on the cooker snapshot that preceeded the Beta1.</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>Post Install:</B></P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Set-up</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Since Mdk has detected my DSL router's
dhcp server (wired) I am on the net immediately after the first boot.
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">My attempt to configure my printer just
managed to stall printerdrake.</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Sound : my audigy card doesn't produce
a sound so far. At kde start-up, arts complains that /dev/dsp doesn't
exist and falls back on /dev/null. Totem media player is unfazed
(probably using arts) and doesn't notice it's not producing any
sound. The right driver appears to be loaded but that doesn't seem to
make a difference. I've checked mixer settings with kmix and all
looks normal. Since alsa is now the default sound transport, I
installed aumix and it crashed on first run.
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Maybe a problem with
/etc/security/console.perms. Things look very restricted in there :
only root and the 'audio' group have sound access. That could be an
explanation. I changed the permission on everything in /dev/snd/ and
aumix didn't crash any more but still no sound .... I'll try more
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>General system feel:</B></P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">The new menu is ok, kind of looks like
the old one but with more sub menus. I am not sure that I prefer it.
Never mind, it's familiar enough.</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">The system feels very responsive and
stable. I notice that dma is enabled on my 2 hard drives, which is a
first on mandrake. I always had to do it myself in the past.
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>Look and feel : </B>dismal and
disappointing: no background picture, a dull colour scheme, let's
hope things will evolve here. Why not contract texstart to take over
that aspect of things ? He would do wonders (and not only on that
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Mozilla works flawlessly and boasts
nice looking anti-aliased fonts.</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>Testing cooker :</B></P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">An observation : no urpmi cooker
repository is configured in the software manager... I've had to hunt
for a up-to-date mirror and then updating the system failed.
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Something that seems stupid to me is
that the wonderfull testzilla-client that registers your harware
configuration and allows to run report accurate hardware bug reports
is not part of the beta distro ! It's in contrib and has quite a few
dependencies so until you've found a urpmi repository, you can't
intstall it easily. It beats the purpose for me. It should be part of
the distro even after release and it should be a choice given to the
users to run it and submit (anonymously if required) their hardware
configuration, alongside their feedback on how well it works. This
would help build a reliable hardware compatibility database that
would be a huge marketing plus for mandrake and Linux in general.
Mandrake could then do a small utility for windows to rate any
machine compatibility.... Ooops, I must have been dreaming for a
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Anyway after installing testzilla, I
ran the testzilla_add_system command and it worked until it tried to
scan for printers. Probably linked with the usb problem. I have
nonetheless been able to report the sound problem and report success
for my nvidia card : 3d works ! I don't think they use the nvidia
driver but still, armagetron manages about 40 fps, which enough for
my liking of 3d screen savers.
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">That's it for now. More later if I
manage to keep the install updated. I will try more apps.</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>Summary :</B></P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">It's not really beta level imho.
Everything should be in place, especially sound and usb.
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><BR>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>The good : </B>
<LI><P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">It is stable as linux should
always be</P>
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm"><B>The bad :</B></P>
<LI><P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">USB problems pre and post-install</P>
<LI><P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Sound problems (for me anyway)</P>
<LI><P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">inexistent artwork.</P>


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