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Old 09-19-2013, 05:54 AM   #31
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Zorin Lite is my main system although I regularly try out new distros. While I don't have "lite" hardware, I still prefer a lite system and I like LXDE as a DE. The integration of remastersys into Zorin allows me to keep a configured and updated Zorin on a USB drive to reinstall whenever I need to. It's fast, efficient and just works well...
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Originally Posted by skikir View Post
Being stuck on the stone age comand line is why the rest of the work looks at linux as a hobby OS. You sound like you would be happy to load programs from Holerith cards too. Just being free does not make you competative.
Oh yeah, stuck on the stone age command line...

This proves: not a linux guy, yet knowing it all.
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Zorin was my first choice when I retired and no longer needed to stay with Microsoft in order to synch home with work computers. Zorin is fairly easy to use, graphically pleasing, and I hope is the best way to get my Linux feet wet. The only thing confusing about Zorin is getting used to having entries for System Tools and Administration from the menu button at lower left of the screen. From the perspective of an old Winders user (and OS/2, DOS, and CP/M!!!) these designations are confusing. I usually open the wrong one when searching for tools or administrative software programs. The difference is not clear to me.
Old 10-17-2013, 06:11 AM   #34
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A very very welcome Zorin
Old 10-17-2013, 01:12 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Bigtwin View Post
Oh yeah, stuck on the stone age command line...

This proves: not a linux guy, yet knowing it all.
Look, I've probably forgotten more than you know about computers. I've bee using computers since 1970 starting with a Digital PDP8-L the size of four bread boxes on a desk where you actually had to flip switches to set the lights on the front to initialize it enough to load the compiler from paper tape to be able to use a teletype console. I've done lines and lines of ones and zeros to just be able get it to do 1+1=2 to the exclimation of "Far out man! Cool! Groovy!" I've done the machine language code to be able to print that to a line printer. I've done the lines and lines of BASIC and FORTRAN to be able to read in and sort data for maintenance management. I've done the coding to send graphs to plotters in the day when the term "drivers" hadn't coined yet. I've come up from Timex-Sinclairs 1000s, TI99s, TRS80s and Commodor 64s through 8086 and above IBM clones. I've done the DOS commands and wicked batch files and I've experianced the chest tightening panicky feeling of losing the the command line begining in Windows 3.1 but by Windows 98 I was well over it. No longer need it, no longer want it. No longer needing to read manuals and learn syntax and switches and have typos. So stop being arogant and don't tell me about freaking command lines, been there, done it and don't miss it abit. A properly written, fully integrated and developed operating system should not need it for the normal user. Yeah, I'm a Windows user but you mention command line to a MAC user and either you will get a blank stare as if your are talking Klingon or get laughed at. When I want a hammer I don't want to learn to forge the steel for the head and carve the wood for the handle, I just want to pound things. In the Linux world the tool is the hobby. In my world I use the tool for the job. Over the years I have adopted my wifes' attitude of cars toward computers, "I don't care about pistons and gears and braking co-efficeints of tires! I just want to get to the mall! And if I have to hand crank it to start it I'll find another one that I won't need to." As long as Linux looks back to and is wedded to the command line mentality it will be a hobby system. Just point, click "setup.exe," done. Ahh, life is good. No futzing with dependencies or repositories, unless you have time for that and think that is fun. The only reson I come back and look at Linux is I guess I'm just still courious but I do have other things to do. Bye, I've got other things to do.
Old 10-17-2013, 01:52 PM   #36
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This post makes use of the "Enter" key

Command line vs gui

someone needs to write a gui that does what you want, with the command line, providing your imagination has not been rotted away by a dependence on GUIs, you can do what you want.

nothing to do with being a hobby, and more about not being a sheep.

I have nothing against GUI/Text mode applications, I use them myself
I also use the command line, a powerful tool.

Your little trip down memory lane tells me one thing. That you are old and stuck in your ways. As such there is little point in trying to convince you to use cli. But I will say this
Stop trying to beat up people who advocate the command line, you will be slaughtered.

Now please, keep on topic,
This thread is about Zorin OS not CLI vs GUI ( which in any case is a stupid argument, as both can and do co-exist )
Old 10-17-2013, 03:30 PM   #37
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@ firerat

Yes your right. This is about Zorin. I have found it to be a nice little OS. The inclusion of Play on Linux is a real plus to me. It's alowed me to associate file extensions to Windows programs that are not available in linux or the linux equivelents do not work or do not do what I want to do.

But before I go I really have to take issue with "That you are old and stuck in your ways." Excuse me?! Really? Ha! The CL IS the old way. I look FORWARD. Forward to an OS that is easy to use and to understand that includes all including those who don't care to learn a foriegn language to able to have the access to the computing world. I use the "trip down memory lane" to illustrate experiance and the hassles of the old ways. The command line is a powerful tool in Linux only because the Linux GUI is weak. Although I have seen great strides recently and especially Zorin. I commend the developers and encourage them to greater hights of the future.
Old 10-17-2013, 05:18 PM   #38
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Firstly I shall apologise for my flippant "old and stuck" comment
Maybe I am the one who is old and stuck in the ways of cli,
but with respect you do not understand what the CLI is for

You can yourself as a hobbyist Linux user get away without much cli
but for the professional system admin, the cli is a very important and necessary tool

I think it has already been mentioned that "Power shell" was introduced to later editions of Microsoft Windows
a cli tool for professionals akin to what has been in use in GNU/Linux, FreeBSD and *nix for years

I don't want to take anything away from Zorin, it is a nice introduction for those migrating from a Windows Desktop.
But being a skinned Ubuntu it is not groundbreaking.

Anyway, this is off topic
perhaps we could start a thread to discus the CLI,
why it is here to stay
why it should (not) be replaced by GUI
Old 10-18-2013, 02:27 AM   #39
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GUIs are just a fast and dirty way to use CLIs.

Sometiems a 'CLI and text' method is much faster, and makes more sense than a GUI. Compare editing a text config file with a linux/BSD distro to reg editing with windows.....


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