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01-09-2005, 03:50 AM
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: Debian
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Does Yoper Dual boot as good as Slackware?
I am kinda fed up with my Slack system. I have downloaded CD2 twice and twice it has been flawed. I am also spoiled with Debian's Apt-Get and love it. I wanted to install Debian right along side my Windows XP partition but unforunately Debian Sarge wanted to format my computer. Can't have that.
So I was looking around at other distro's and Yoper looks right for me. I have no issues with getting my hands dirty here and there (plus I have a working Windows build -incredible- and an iBook so I can always put something aside and come back to it later.) At any rate, I would like to use it as long as it dual boots and plays well with Windows.
Mike
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01-09-2005, 07:51 PM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Distribution: suse/slack/gentoo/lfs (not-in-that-order)
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my experience is that yoper only boots nice if you use lilo as your boot loader. i prefer grub, but yoper doesn't seem to get a grub install right very often. i would use lilo and you should be fine dual booting. if you're using other distros, grub might be a better choice, especially the new one when its out (not sure when it is expected). it is supposed to be a complete renovation from the ground up... i think it will be nice. wish they would include a partition manager like the old "Ranish Partition Manager." I love that thing and i like the chainloader XOSL that will let you hot-key to Ranish from the chainloader (XOSL doesn't know how to load linux ;-S it can only chainload to your boot partition).
Yoper and Lilo is a go, Yoper and grub is a rub :P
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01-10-2005, 01:31 AM
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: Debian
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Well here is my concern with it now, when i was working with the partition manager it looked like it was going to format the whole hdd.
Is this true? I mean I already have my linux partitions made from Slackware, I just want to format and write in them, I do NOT want to have to format my entire hdd. I do not want to lose my Windows build.
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01-10-2005, 05:18 PM
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well i don't think you HAVE to format anything, you can select what to format and what not. then you choose (next screen i believe) what to mount where. i would definitely make backups before you use any new partitioning software (on any OS) for the first time.
i read somewhere that there are only 2 classes of computer users: those who have lost data, and those who will...you could then say there are only 2 classes of users: those who backup their data, and those who will)
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01-10-2005, 09:22 PM
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Oh I do backup all my stuff. I do weekly backups and backup when needed.
I am just trying to avoid the hassle of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything if at all possible. Even though everything is backed up, I would rather not be surprised with it.
Mike
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01-25-2005, 04:48 PM
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dont know if your resolved your issue, but i might suggest waiting till the new yoper is released (if it hasn't been already). i have had some problems with yoper arbitrarily changing directory permissions on Wine and VMWare directorys (rendering them unusable until the directories are chased down and fixed).
i'm not sure if it is a configuration setting i have gotten wrong, but it did it on two different systems, so perhaps it needs one or two more releases before it would qualify as stable (especially if you add the grub installation problems).
i really like yoper, but it needs to mature just a bit before its ready for mainstream ;-)
just my 2c
-pres
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02-01-2005, 07:32 AM
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Canada
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I agree with Present, I have a sort of working Yoper Installation on a spare harddrive I can swap in and out of my system. I definetly think Yoper is going in the right direction. I just dont think its ready for mass consumption. I found too many odd little twitches in it that would confuse the hell out of an average computer user.
I also believe apt-get required me to udpate my repository lists once in each in two different versions of Yoper I have tried. To me such a small problem that would seem so easy to fix before Yoper created the ISO, would be such a huge problem for an average user. And its little things like that, that make me feel Yoper isn't ready yet. But I'm gunning for it work out.
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02-01-2005, 06:20 PM
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Kalifornia
Distribution: YOPER+KDE
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it worked at first, but then when the new servers where put up, you needed to change it.
2.2 will be a very good release.
but 2.3 will be nothing short of awesome. new config tools, KDE 3.4(hopefully) and a tottally new interface.
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02-04-2005, 11:42 AM
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cool,
i also had the little problem of yoper or kde <im guessing here> changing permissions on user app directories which causes them to crash unless you hunt them down an d change them back regularly. the next releases will likely solve many of these minor issues.
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02-27-2005, 12:37 PM
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Registered: Feb 2005
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I ve got a yoper 2.1 cd with a mag and i dont like Gnome but the problem is ive never installed yoper or even linux for that matter and ive a celeron 1.7ghz/128 mb ram/40gb hdd /mercury 845 gl motherboard(i do have quite an experience with windows but the pile of crap keeps crashing infact /imagine installing an Os & reformatting immidiatly) now what i want to know is
~does yoper have K3b ?
~ what about the graphical installer?
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02-27-2005, 12:43 PM
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Registered: Feb 2005
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I ve got a yoper 2.1 cd with a mag and i dont like Gnome but the problem is ive never installed yoper or even linux for that matter and ive a celeron 1.7ghz/128 mb ram/40gb hdd /mercury 845 gl motherboard(i do have quite an experience with windows but the pile of crap keeps crashing infact /imagine installing an Os & reformatting immidiatly) now what i want to know is
~does yoper have K3b ?
~ what about the graphical installer?
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02-28-2005, 02:07 AM
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Kalifornia
Distribution: YOPER+KDE
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it should run great on that system.
the installer is not graphical, but it is still straight forward. the part where you paritition your harddrives is graphical though. so the only difference is you just press next with your keyboard instead of you mouse. its not like youre in a command line or anything.
and yes, it does come with k3b
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03-01-2005, 11:16 AM
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it is really a rather quick install and a good distro performance-wise. i would suggest use lilo for boot-mgr when prompted.
only minor problem i had with the distro: it would change file permissions on wine and vm-ware directories. if you don't use either of these much, it shouldn't be a problem.
give it a try
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03-02-2005, 03:31 PM
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: UK
Distribution: Fedora Core 3
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Yoper Sounds really good, thinking about dual booting it with debian, (im having issues with fc3 and dual booting deb) And it's nvidia drivers out of the box right?
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03-07-2005, 12:31 AM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Distribution: suse/slack/gentoo/lfs (not-in-that-order)
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not sure there... i had OLD ati card and it recognized it fine. have you posted a thread about your dual-boot problems and vid probs? understanding the boot process and how to make changes to the menus and /boot partition takes some time getting used to. sure is awesome it is all configurable tho
there are some simple "how-to's" out there if you have the patience to google to them
Last edited by Present; 03-07-2005 at 12:32 AM.
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