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Old 07-12-2010, 11:02 AM   #1
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This thread is more like discussion. What packages to remove/purge in new Ubuntu to make the system faster and more stable? If you are like advanced Ubuntu user and don't need all that eye-candy and "easy-to-use" features.

My suggestions:
pulseaudio
ubufox ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595941 )
 
Old 07-13-2010, 10:43 AM   #2
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No seriously, if you're really interested in a faster and more stable Ubuntu without needing to install Debian, I'd use the alternate CD and install a bare system. Then just use aptitude to build what you need on top of it.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 10:52 AM   #3
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Unhappy Need proprietary software

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Purge: Ubuntu
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I would! The problem is: Debian's repositories don't contain proprietary software I need like nVidia drivers, Firefox (not Iceweasel that doesn't support some useful Mozilla add-ons), etc... Debian is cool!

This is the only reason why I still use Ubuntu instead of prefered Debian.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:01 AM   #4
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I would! The problem is: Debian's repositories don't contain proprietary software I need like nVidia drivers, Firefox (not Iceweasel that doesn't support some useful Mozilla add-ons), etc... Debian is cool!

This is the only reason why I still use Ubuntu instead of prefered Debian.
Can't you add the Ubuntu repositories that you want to Debian by just adding them to the sources.list file? I'm not sure if this would work or if it would be completely compatible, but I'd imagine that it would be considering that Ubuntu is Debian (I mean the base of it anyway.).
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:07 AM   #5
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I would! The problem is: Debian's repositories don't contain proprietary software I need like nVidia drivers, Firefox ...
You can augment your /etc/apt/sources.list file to include proprietary software, the nvidia driver, and pretty much anything else you would ever want in Debian.
See this tutorial on enabling extra repos in Debian:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=13362
The Debian Wiki has more info than you would ever need to install the nvidia driver:
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
Note: The "module assistant" method of installing the nvidia driver is considered to be the
"Debian Way". You can of course install the driver from nvidia.com if you want to.
You can replace iceweasel with firefox if you want to. Or you can just download firefox from mozilla.com to your home directory and run the mozilla firefox from there. This is what I do on Lenny. Just put a shortcut on your desktop or wherever. Or run it from the terminal.

As far as what to remove on Ubuntu, the first thing I get rid of is that resource hogging beast pulseaudio.
http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/sh....php?p=8284273

Last edited by tommcd; 07-13-2010 at 11:13 AM.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:14 AM   #6
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I would! The problem is: Debian's repositories don't contain proprietary software I need like nVidia drivers, Firefox (not Iceweasel that doesn't support some useful Mozilla add-ons), etc... Debian is cool!
Debian's repositories do have the Nvidia drivers,however only Sid has the most up to date.
You will have to install Firefox manually if you want it,dependent on which architecture you are using.
There has been some noises regarding getting FF back into Debian,so we shall have to see what happens.

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Can't you add the Ubuntu repositories that you want to Debian by just adding them to the sources.list file? I'm not sure if this would work or if it would be completely compatible, but I'd imagine that it would be considering that Ubuntu is Debian (I mean the base of it anyway.).
Noooooo!!.

Debian and Ubuntu are not binary compatible,you should never mix packages from each.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:17 AM   #7
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Can't you add the Ubuntu repositories that you want to Debian by just adding them to the sources.list file? I'm not sure if this would work or if it would be completely compatible ...
No. Ubuntu repos are not compatible with Debian. The Ubuntu devs make changes to the Debian packages they use. Adding Ubuntu sources to Debian's sources.list is a good way to break your Debian system.
 
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Can't you add the Ubuntu repositories that you want to Debian by just adding them to the sources.list file? I'm not sure if this would work or if it would be completely compatible, but I'd imagine that it would be considering that Ubuntu is Debian (I mean the base of it anyway.).
I thought about it. And asked. People doubt it will work stable. If I add Ubuntu's repos, it will have copies of programs. It will be complete mess.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:40 AM   #9
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Don't streamline your system by installing and then removing things-----don't install them in the first place. This is why I like Arch----when you first install it, you have **nothing**---just a terminal and the basic utilities.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:44 AM   #10
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tommcd, so you're saying that I can install nVidia driver, Java, Flash, different codecs from extra repos in Debian? And use Firefox like it's portable in Windows (kind of)?
 
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About Adblock. It is available as a package in Debian. What if I install it as an add-on on Firefox? Might it be a conflict later?
 
Old 07-13-2010, 11:50 AM   #12
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No seriously, if you're really interested in a faster and more stable Ubuntu without needing to install Debian, I'd use the alternate CD and install a bare system. Then just use aptitude to build what you need on top of it.
Yep, install command line system. Then reboot and
sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
reboot
sudo aptitude install -R xserver-xorg-video-xxxxxx xserver-xorg-input-mouse gdm gnome-session gnome-terminal gnome-panel acpi-support upower nautilus synaptic firefox [...]
(the -R strips all dependencies that are not strictly required). I don't know them all by name; I usually check first by running sudo aptitude install -s ubuntu-desktop.
 
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:54 AM   #13
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I would! The problem is: Debian's repositories don't contain proprietary software I need like nVidia drivers, Firefox (not Iceweasel that doesn't support some useful Mozilla add-ons), etc... Debian is cool!

This is the only reason why I still use Ubuntu instead of prefered Debian.
nvidia drivers are in the repos. I am lazy so I use smxi/sgfxi.
Card nVidia G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] X.Org 1.7.7 Res: 1280x1024@50.0hz
GLX Renderer GeForce 9400 GT/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.35

Firefox is easy enough to install, Iceweasel supports the same extensions, if you run stable install iceweasel from backports. Or just use Firefox.
I use Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6, I also have Iceweasel 4.0~b1-0 installed.

Better yet run testing or sid if you want newer packages.

apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
Installed: 4.0~b1-0 same as the current Firefox beta
Candidate: 4.0~b1-0
Version table:
*** 4.0~b1-0 0
500 http://mozilla.debian.net ./ Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
3.6.4-1 0 only one thing was changed from firefox 3.6.4>3.6.6
101 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main Packages
3.5.10-1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org sid/main Packages
 
Old 07-13-2010, 12:18 PM   #14
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No. Ubuntu repos are not compatible with Debian. The Ubuntu devs make changes to the Debian packages they use. Adding Ubuntu sources to Debian's sources.list is a good way to break your Debian system.
Yeah, now as I think about that I realize that it's a rather dumb idea. I guess my head wasn't screwed on all the way when I looked at this topic this morning
 
Old 07-13-2010, 01:20 PM   #15
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I'd use the alternate CD and install a bare system. Then just use aptitude to build what you need on top of it.
But alternate Ubuntu is the same as usual Ubuntu. It contains Gnome and all the stuff. Installation is in text mode.
 
  


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