A question:

I run dapper, being attracted mainly by LTS

I want to run backup-manager, but dapper only supports (in the repositories) only version 6.1

I want version 7.5, which is supported in edgy, but I don't want edgy.

How do I manage that?

2 options:
- junk package management for that and download/install manually
(I don't really want to do that)
- include some repository, but how do I keep from messing everything up? (it is the only package I have an issue with, so I don't need/want to upgrade all the rest)

I would prefer to stay as much in line as possible with the distro ...

Regards

Peter

Is it in the Ubuntu backports repository?

If not, you can try something called apt-pinning which I've used w/ mixed results in Debian systems.

Just a quick question:

Why not install Edgy Eft?

If it's for the same reasons I had for hesitating (Hearing horror story after horror story of failed upgrades and wiped systems) then I would suggest you ignore the masses who, while normally intelligent, seemed to fail to comprehend that trying to do an upgrade on the day it's released is kind of like lemmings following their buddies...eventually everyone crashes at the bottom of the cliff.

I've just recently upgraded my Ubuntu Dapper Drake (which I've loved for quite awhile) to Ubuntu Edgy Eft with zero issues, save for one - It couldn't find the Evolution Email png because the old one was labeled 2.6 and the new one's 2.8.

That was my only hiccup in a 3 hour, internet based, flawless upgrade.

Oh, and I run Cedega, VMWare, and quite a few other applications I would have hated to have to replace...especially since I have a lot of saved games in Cedega.

Just thought I'd toss in a thought or two for the easiest solution to your dilemma.

Cheers,
Lord Ghost

Why not Edgy Eft?

Well, the simple reason is that I am one of those lemmings you describe, and I found myself at the bottom of the cliff ... looking up and thinking, ow ... that hurt ...
(that was on a crash and burn PC, but nevertheless, not fun)
But the real reason is that I am trying to set up a stable, professional environment because I really really really want to get rid of M$ once and for all. This implies that I can live with an environment that has package upgrades, but not with one that gets a total overhaul every 6 months. One of the great things of M$ (no, this is not flamebait) is that something akin to that works and is stable (in M$'s definition of stable, but that works) over _very_ long stretches of time. For example, if I need to reinstall a machine, I pop in the W2K cd I purchased in 2002 (or thereabouts) and I can get to a perfectly current system after spending some time upgrading. (not a little of it either, but it's mostly automatic, so that is ok).
Therefore I am attracted to Dapper. If you look at Ubuntu, I think you will find that Breezy is the earliest one that is still somwhat supported. And it is barely 14 months old, and probably scheduled for phase-out sometime soon.
So given that the life-expectancy of Edgy is 6 months, I won't bother.

How to say it ... I need to install a system (i.e. a collections of OS + packages), stabilise that, tune that to MY needs, and then make it evolve with package upgrades which are bug fixes, upgrades, etc, and the occasional new one. But not redoing the underlying system. For example, Edgy removed linux-686. I use it. This is not a trivial transparant change, probably for good reasons, but it breaks things for me. Another one, wireless. I really don't want to through that sh*t every 6 months, yet that seems an inescapable consequence of e.g. upgrading to Edgy.

Is this somewhat coherent? Any comments welcome, I'm still trying to get a feel for a workable solution ...

Regards,

Peter

Edgy will be supported for 18 months, just like any of the previous releases, excluding Dapper LTS. I find Edgy considerably better and just as stable, if not more, than dapper, but it's your choice. I'd say just install the .deb of your backup app, it won't kill ubuntu and you can ignore any warnings, couse their just wanting you to use their own repo's.

Just download the package you want. Double click it and it will try to install. You may find there are dependency failures because the version you want depends on newer bits and pieces of Ubuntu than you have. If you have dependency failures and still want to run the latest version the best approach may be an upgrade. Regardless of what version of Ubuntu you're using, it's best to stick with applications from that Ubuntu version's repositories. If you do you will find that upgrades tend to be very smooth and without major problems. That's my approx with few exceptions and my upgrades always have gone well with minimal hiccups if any. When upgrading backup your data to a spare partition. If you do have problems with the upgrade you can then a clean install of the new release and restore your data. Lemmings are people who don't follow prudent practices when upgrading. Those who use common sense are early adopters.