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My debian sarge server does not include hotplug, udev, hal, xorg and it is headless. Ubuntu expects this to be present. Debian doesn't assume anything.
This thread was about using ubuntu or debian as a desktop system.
Well in ubuntu desktop environments besides GNOME are second class citizens. In Debian all DE are equal. I can experiment with fluxbox, GNOME, KDE, icewm, enlightenment without using extra repositories.
Originally posted by psilo My debian sarge server does not include hotplug, udev, hal, xorg and it is headless. Ubuntu expects this to be present. Debian doesn't assume anything.
Ubuntu has a server install option (at least hoary does), although as you pointed out this is a thread about linux in the desktop.
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Originally posted by psilo Well in ubuntu desktop environments besides GNOME are second class citizens. In Debian all DE are equal. I can experiment with fluxbox, GNOME, KDE, icewm, enlightenment without using extra repositories.
I like that ubuntu comes on one cd. If you prefer KDE over GNOME then you can use kubuntu. If you want to use another desktop you can enable the repositories and install it with apt-get. So I guess Debian is more flexible if you are on a dial-up connection, but I don't think there is anything you can do with Debian that you can't do with ubuntu.
My experience with Debian was cool till I got bad superblock for unknown reason on my sata hard-drives ( on Mandrake same were fine), ubuntu is a distribuition that have chosen to be gnome desktop specific with pro and cons ...Debian is GNU/Linux so is whatever you want if you have time /capacities to make it fit your needs. Ubuntu folks made the right choice in my opinion , instead of building another distro they made something particular and for this reason things that are supposed to be used work easly....
Fellow Slacker currently using Ubuntu. I've used Debian Sarge as well. Ubuntu is basically Debian with newer packages. Once you add the multiverse and universe options to your sources.list you have access to any packages you can get in Debian. It's easy enough to edit the sources.list to add any repository your heart desires and if you're a Slacker you already know how to edit config files and disable anything you don't want running.
Keep in mind a number of the developers working on Ubuntu are also Debian developers.
I'm fairly impressed with the job Ubuntu has done with Hoary. So far I haven't found any limitations on flexibility. I have configured the system exactly the way I like it and it's running quite smoothly for me. I see it as Debian with fresher packages and a few nice little extra tools.
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