Thanks for replies.
Ubuntu 5.04 x86 install cd, booted up this morning
and except for partition panic.... I am now using ubuntu uphoricly....
Problem seems to be my LG dvd-rom drive, model drd-8160b
half the time it will not recognize the install disk, (no problem with the live cd)
little linux leprechauns luckily loaded linux late last night
note to self: leave libation for leprechauns later