LinuxQuestions.org
Help answer threads with 0 replies.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Ubuntu
User Name
Password
Ubuntu This forum is for the discussion of Ubuntu Linux.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 03-30-2006, 03:14 PM   #1
introuble
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: Debian -unstable
Posts: 700

Rep: Reputation: 31
Ubuntu only for new users ?


Hello.

Recently I've started to experiment with Debian Linux. A couple of days ago I had the chance to try out Ubuntu (Breezy Badger). All works fine and dandy, the system worked out of the box .. not much of a fan of their default Gnome theme but anyway.

I suppose these are definite arguments for new users to pick Ubuntu instead of Debian.

However, I am wandering .. for an experienced user who isn't affraid to use the CLI, isn't affraid to manually edit configuration file .. and is rather fond of "apt-get" and "apt-cache" .. And likes a system which is as bloat-free as possible .. what can Ubuntu offer that Debian can not ? (maybe it's wortht mentioning: Debian Testing [etch])


So .. for an advanced user .. are there any reasons why he should use Ubuntu instead of Debian ? (assumption: the advanced user doesn't care about point-and-click .. and probably even prefers cli)
 
Old 03-30-2006, 03:19 PM   #2
XavierP
Moderator
 
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Kent, England
Distribution: Debian Testing
Posts: 19,192
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 474Reputation: 474Reputation: 474Reputation: 474Reputation: 474
Moved: This thread is more suitable in Ubuntu and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 03:21 PM   #3
amon
Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian, Ubantu, CentOS
Posts: 146

Rep: Reputation: 17
easy install

It's easy to install.

Faster than doing the full thing from a debian net boot CD.

Most things configured out the box (saves me configuring lots of things)

I personaly prefer Debian strait for the power but it takes a long time to install and configure to a point I can use it for any work or fidling.

The perfect halfway house would be something that installs Debian and puts lots of nice defaults on like audio, network, DVD and video codecs etc...
 
Old 03-30-2006, 03:34 PM   #4
brianthegreat
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 518

Rep: Reputation: 32
I agree with Amon considering that Ubuntu is less of a pain regarding the configuration. Some people enjoy spending hours configuring everything but others do not. You can also create holes in your OS by making mistakes in your configurations. Everyone who partakes in linux uses their distro for a reason and it all depends on the user.

I have been using linus for the past five or so years and see Deian as a total pain regarding the install and configuration.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 03:49 PM   #5
zaphod_es
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Brazil
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 136

Rep: Reputation: 15
Twice yearly new versions (even if they are running 6 weeks late). Debian take a long long time for a new version. The real question is to work out what you want out of Ubuntu that you do not get and see if Debian will supply it.

I install Debian once every year or so but it never lasts long. It just seems to need so much configuration and hardware tweaking. Ubuntu comes up with pretty good defaults and most of it works out of the box. If you enjoy tinkering, have plenty of time, are prepared to accept breakages from time to time Debian Unstable is great fun.

ZB
 
Old 03-30-2006, 05:28 PM   #6
rickh
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
Distribution: Debian-Lenny/Sid 32/64 Desktop: Generic AMD64-EVGA 680i Laptop: Generic Intel SIS-AC97
Posts: 4,250

Rep: Reputation: 62
Personally, I stick with Debian Testing. On a new system, it can take some fiddling, but it's not bad. On a system I know I can set it up with the defaults I like in a couple hours. Of course I build my own PCs from generic parts so hardware setup is not really an issue.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 11:02 PM   #7
cavalier
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Distribution: Slack 12, tweaked just so (though I'm also a fan of Ubuntu)
Posts: 198
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 30
I appreciate that this has been, thus far, an even-handed discussion, rather than a Debian vs. Ubuntu flame fest.

I've come to the conclusion that Debian is to Ubuntu what FreeBSD is to, well, Mac OS X. Ubuntu sets you up with a very nice, useful desktop system, much like Mac OS X does out of the box. Debian is an equally nice system, but requires (or allows, if you prefer) a greater level of tinkering to make it do all of the things you want it to do.

Neither one is better, honestly, especially as Ubuntu is really just Debian-plus, much as Mac OS X is BSD-plus. It's all about what you want, isn't it?

It's really the best part of Linux, and all of the various Unix-like operating systems. There's always a flavor that's best for whatever you want to do.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ubuntu, the good, the bad, and the ugly. From real users. R00ts Ubuntu 175 03-08-2006 07:14 AM
LXer: Why Ubuntu isn't for New Linux Users LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 02-25-2006 05:01 PM
Looking for Singapore Ubuntu Users kelvinq Linux User Groups (LUG) 26 08-01-2005 11:22 AM
Clean install from Ubuntu Warty to Ubuntu Hoary Erik_the_Red Linux - Newbie 2 06-05-2005 08:14 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Ubuntu

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:52 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration