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Old 03-31-2006, 03:55 AM   #1
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Angry Ubuntu Missing Every Essential Thing?


Hi..
I am a complete newbie to Linux... but i really want to switch to it... So i downloaded Ubuntu in around 60 Hours (Dialup)./.. and when i installed it i am having hell of some problems... Please help me: (Also note that i have already checked all the major ubuntu websites)

First of all... i needed to connect to internet so i could download and install softwares i required... but then i got to know that gnome-ppp is not inlcuded in ubuntuso then i downloaded it from my windows and when i tried to dpkg it it said there is no "C Compiler" and stuff so then i thought of connecting my internet through command line softwares ppp and wvdial... when i tried to configure wvdial it said i had no modem... so i downloaded my modem drivers and when i tried to compile them it said "no Make command found" and scanModem said No Kernel Headers... so i then again tried to go to GUI and downloaded gcc3.4.2 from my windows... and when i tried to dpkg it it said that i dont have any of these:

Code:
asad@AMT-Mainframe:~$ sudo dpkg -i gcc-3.4_3.4.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 57096 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace gcc-3.4 3.4.2-2ubuntu1 (using gcc-3.4_3.4.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement gcc-3.4 ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gcc-3.4:
 gcc-3.4 depends on gcc-3.4-base; however:
  Package gcc-3.4-base is not installed.
 gcc-3.4 depends on cpp-3.4 (>= 3.4.2-2ubuntu1); however:
  Package cpp-3.4 is not installed.
 gcc-3.4 depends on cpp-3.4 (<< 3.4.3); however:
  Package cpp-3.4 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing gcc-3.4 (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:


So it looks to me that this list is never going to End?... so I'll be VERY HAPPY if someone could tell me what is going on with me... and more importantly:

Is there any other Distribution that will not give me that much HEADACHES?

Last edited by sosaited; 03-31-2006 at 03:57 AM.
 
Old 03-31-2006, 04:02 AM   #2
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Ubuntu does not ship with many packages since its only on one cd. Development packages are a major ommision so you are going to be going round in circles trying to get all the packages you need. If you are on dial up, maybe you are better off getting a distro that includes all the packages you need on one or more discs. If you are looking for Debian based distros, try Mepis or Kanotix. You could also try Suse, Fedora Core or Mandriva.

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Old 03-31-2006, 04:10 AM   #3
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If you are on dialup AND cannot connect to the internet via linux, you are not too well-off, I'm afraid. Those one-CD- distros usually are stripped of everything that is not essential, which does include development packages (-> compilation). If you cannot retrieve the PPP dialup program as .deb (including dependencies), I suppose you should rather get a distro based on several DVDs shipped by mail (SuSe might be a start, if you are willing to spend money, or a Knoppix DVD as hdinstall), in order to exclude any dependency problems, and reinstall the system. In any other case, even if you could connect to the net, you would sill be downloading for days every time you'd try to install a bigger pack of software, like, say, KDE.

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Old 03-31-2006, 02:47 PM   #4
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Where can i buy Linux Cd's at MINIMUM COST?. Please suggest some websites... which offer international shipping... and are reliable
Actually i am a bit afraid to use my credit card because i've never used it on internet... and i've heard that it can be risky.. so help me on this one too..
THanks
 
Old 03-31-2006, 05:32 PM   #5
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You can download every flavour of linux for just the time this takes (and the money this needs).
Or should I say "almost all distributions... "?

1.) There is distrowatch with links to the distos websites (...downloads...)
2.) Another way I know is (a basic procedure here...): Debian web-site - get debian - a lot of links these stores most certainly not only sell debian...
3.) google...

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Old 03-31-2006, 07:43 PM   #6
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You should be able to install the build-essential package off the cd. This is a meta-package that will install most the the things like compilers that you're missing. There's a decent number of packages that are on the cd but just aren't installed by default. Install build-essential through synaptic and it should ask you to put the cd in, if it's not already.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 06:23 AM   #7
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sosaited,

For future reference you can get Ubuntu CDs shipped to you free of charge (yes, really!) - just go to https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and make your request there. I have done this myself, the CD packaging Canonical Ltd uses is amazing quality for a freebie! That will save you hours of painstaking dialup downloads...

For setting up your dialup, I know the Ubuntu CD has the package "wvdial" on it, install that via Synaptic, and then at a terminal command line type "sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf" and that should detect your modem, set up your ISP info etc.. After that you can dial-up from the command line using "pon your-isp-provider". your-isp-provider of course will be the ISP name you choose when you setup wvdial. This is not a particularly great way for a newbie to get connected (but it will work), and if you kick it around and read as much as you can from website forums then some Linux lessons will be learnt along the way!

Once you are connected then you can set up the extra online repositories in Synaptic and then you can simply and easily download and install gnome-ppp etc...

I've been using Linux for several years now - my advice - stick with Ubuntu - it will probably give you less headaches than any other distro at this stage...with a little tweaking it will run like a charm.

Yell if you need any further help, I will try my best...

Cheers,

jdw
 
Old 04-08-2006, 04:37 PM   #8
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Sorry about the apparant threadjacking on a tangeant, but:

How does Canonical generate revenue? They ship media for free. You can offer it preinstalled on machines if you're OEM and not pay a nickel to Canonical. With that said, I really would like to know what their revenue stream is, because Ubuntu is a great distribution and I'd hate to see it die.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 05:34 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KimVette
Sorry about the apparant threadjacking on a tangeant, but:

How does Canonical generate revenue?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth

He coughs up the revenue.

And you can also get paid support:

http://www.ubuntu.com/support/suppor...ns/paidsupport
 
Old 04-08-2006, 05:54 PM   #10
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He coughs up the revenue.
A peculiar thing about lots of money. Sometimes it takes a while, but the end goal is that it should generate even more. I'm sure Mr. Shuttleworth is a gentleman and a scholar, but I'll bet that he views this period of time as a financial investment.

One of these days we will have a major controversy on this very forum when Ubuntu, Redhat, Linspire, Xandros, Suse, Mandriva, and all the other 'Newbie Friendly' distros elect to include DRM in their kernels. That (as was noted in the recent LinuxWorld convention) will probably be the price for a broad based movement to mainstream computing.

It won't really bother me, I guess. My system won't include it. But I'm wondering if I should provide assistance to people using distros that would do such a thing.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 08:37 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by angkor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth

He coughs up the revenue.

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I see, thanks.
 
Old 04-09-2006, 06:16 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by rickh
but I'll bet that he views this period of time as a financial investment.
I'm sure he could invest it wiser if his aim was generating even more money.

From ubuntu.com:

"...The team behind Ubuntu makes the following public commitment to its users:

Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms...."


Don't know about all that drm stuff though. Why would the distros you mentioned include drm in their kernels and others wouldn't? I'll cross that bridge when I get there though.
 
Old 04-09-2006, 02:40 PM   #13
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In the business world, nobody makes such a huge investment without expecting something in return. Personally I think giving away free media is a marketing tactic by Canonical to get people hooked on Ubuntu. Free discs plus a lot of hype and you have millions of people checking out this "Ubuntu" thing. Their major target appears to have always been the enterprise market where the bigs bucks are, but they couldn't do this unless the distro appeared to have a huge following and technical excellence. Now they have a huge community, they are now gunning for the enterprise with the new focus on stability and the new LPI Ubuntu certification.

I have no doubts that Mark Shuttleworth is a good guy and he has good intentions, but I cannnot see someone investing millions for no return. I also think deep pockets have helped Ubuntu become more popular than other Linux distros because most Linux distro maintainers (except Redhat) cannot afford to give away free media or get a marketing machine like the one Ubuntu has.

Now, lets stop diverting from the thread title.

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Old 04-09-2006, 04:46 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reddazz
Now, lets stop diverting from the thread title.
Glad you mention that, I had already forgot about the original topic.

sorry bout that.
 
Old 04-09-2006, 04:49 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by reddazz
In the business world, nobody makes such a huge investment without expecting something in return.
Perhaps his return is personal satisfaction along with a nice tax writeoff?

Anyway, sorry about the threadjacking, but I've recently tried a newer release of ubuntu and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. KDE is not quite as refined on kubuntu as it is on SuSE but it has come a long way, and it leaves us an out should Novell decide to follow through with its KDE announcement last autumn. Even though they've recanted on it and have pledged to continue supporting KDE, it's good to reevaluate options.
 
  


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