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JediDB 07-27-2005 08:09 PM

Ubuntu Installation Issues :(
 
Hi all,

I downloaded the latest Ubuntu so i could install it.

During the installation, everything goes fine then all of a sudden, i get an error:

Base System Return Error

Check /vor/log/messages

Why am i having this issue? Im trying to install it to a 10g ext3 partition.

Thanks,

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 08:17 PM

I've got that very same error in one machine, but not in another. The thing is, those CD's I've installed Ubuntu were shipped from Ubuntu, not downloaded from the net. Why that happens, I don't know. Still, after trying over and over (and over) the installation completed successfully.

Not happy with the results, I've formated my machine and tried to install again, same error. After a lot of trials and errors, it will come a time where the installer will pass through that error and install. If you have time and patience, keep trying. It will install, sometime...

Talking about buggy...

JediDB 07-27-2005 08:19 PM

Thanks for the reply. My machine cant boot into windows now as the grub is damaged, lol, and i dont want to have to format the HD with all my WinXP games/files on particulary StarWars Galaxies....

Ill keep trying the install i guess. I understand what your talking about though as installing Win95 years back, sometimes it installed, others it didnt..

JediDB 07-27-2005 08:27 PM

Also, when making partition, whats the difference in Primary and Logical? Do they both have different purposes?

JediDB 07-27-2005 08:40 PM

Ok, i seemingly have Ubuntu installing fine now AFTER i let it partition the hd itself so, what was i doing wrong?

i had it partitioned to:

hdb1 10g ext3
hdb2 10g ext
hdb3 1g swap
hdb4 100g FAT 32

All set as Primary, but that didnt work, so i set some as Logical (not knowing what that means) abd it still didnt work.

Id like to have Ubuntu installed as listed above somehow....

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 09:28 PM

Hi again JediDB!

I hope you did not lose your stuff ^_^. Primary partitions, as far as I know, are partitions declared inside the MBR (Master boot record). Since MBR is a very small part of the HD, it can hold up to 4 primary partitions only. A work around for that was the creation of logical partitions. Logical partitions are partitions declared inside a primary partition. Some operating system, in order to boot properly, must be installed on a primary partition.

One thing interesting (and so much better done) is the way FreeBSD handles partitions. It uses one partition and addional partitions (as /home/, or /usr/ or whatever you like) are created inside the FreeBSD partition. What is so great about that you may ask? You will only use one primary partition to install FreeBSD and all other partitions for BSD are created inside that primary one. Similar to logical, but not quite ^_^.

Well, good luck with Ubuntu. I found one of the coolest distros out there... sad about the installer though. I might give auto some chance sometime ;)

Edit: I re-read your post. Install Ubuntu inside one primary (if you still have one) and the rest(swap, home, usr, whatever) as logical. That "could" work ^_^.

Regards!

JediDB 07-27-2005 09:39 PM

Wooty!

I got it working! Thanks for the helps Megaman :)

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 10:34 PM

Cool! I'm glad it works. Not quite sure what I did though, you've managed to fix it by yourself, so all credits goes to you ^_^. If you don't know this link already, bookmark it. It's a guide for Ubuntu. It will help you out with nearly everything you need to tweak Ubuntu to work as you like:

http://www.ubuntuguide.org/

Best of luck!

JediDB 07-27-2005 10:37 PM

Hmmm, i just got the Ubuntun installed but when i try to log in, it wont let me and it wont let me log in a root either.

3 times this has happened now. Even when i give ubuntu details for a sub account, it wont let me go past that screen. It asks me over and over again.

ANy ideas? this is starting to kill me now :(

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 10:48 PM

Ubuntu, by default, does not have a root account. You should login as the user you've created during the installation process. If you need to ever do any admin tasks (starting/stopping services, adding or removing programs) use the sudo command. e.g:

sudo apache2ctl start

it's possible to create a root account if you like. Didn't you create an user during the installation? I thought it was a "must" to create one user and set its password :(

JediDB 07-27-2005 11:02 PM

yes, im trying to create a user account but it keeps asking me over and over again for it.

When i installed Ubuntu where it partitioned my HD, everything worked but i could never log into root to make system changes.
After i got the installer working with the partitions i wanted, well, this is where i am now, not been able to get past the create user account. It keeps looping back. If i skip this, i cant log into Ubuntu at all as no accounts are created.

JediDB 07-27-2005 11:28 PM

Well, i just went through all the reinstallation process again and this time, i didnt let Ubuntu update (unpluged my ethernet cable) and i managed to get past the password creation point this time.

After its done installing, and if i can get onto my desktop, ill let you know.

Also, what is sudo?

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 11:34 PM

Sudo is a command that allows an user to execute a command as root. Since Ubuntu does not use root, everything is done with sudo. The first user you create is the only user that can use the command sudo. If you want, you could add more users to the sudoers file. Let's say you want to install gaim:

sudo apt-get install gaim

That's how everything will work in Ubuntu. It's possible to create a root account as I said before, if sudo does not do it for you ^_^. The Ubuntu guide explains how to create an user account.

You can read more about sudo by typing "man sudo", though, that's pretty much what you need to know so far =)

JediDB 07-27-2005 11:35 PM

Hi

Well, what a waste of time this is turning out to be. It says that theres an installation error after i try to log in.

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 11:36 PM

That's bad. Feels like you still have a pretty broken installation =(

JediDB 07-27-2005 11:41 PM

Everywhere i look online re: Ubuntu installation issues, all the people have the same issues as me and no one has any answers. Im starting to think thay Ubuntu is not that great of a dist after all with me spending 6 hrs trying to get it to install.

Thats sad too as Ubuntu had alot of promise for me....

What else would you recomend Megaman for me to use as a dist? I tried Mepis but wasnt liking it after i installed it.

Mega Man X 07-27-2005 11:48 PM

Sad to hear that. You know, call me crazy, but I think this problem with Ubuntu is related to sATA disks (is that what you have or IDE).

Well, I think that after Ubuntu, SuSE is a nice choice, very user-friendly distribution. Found it more bloated then Ubuntu, but very good. My all time favorite would be Slackware though. Not as user friendly as Ubuntu or SuSE, but very good indeed. I liked Mandrake a lot back in the days, but ran up to Mandrake 9.2. Have no idea how if it got better or worse.

I think they are all good and bad in some way. If you need an user-friendly distro, try Mandrake or SuSE. If you want some challenge and customization, Slackware or pure Debian would be a nice choice ^_^. It will all comes down to personal preferences though =)

JediDB 07-27-2005 11:53 PM

And i thought it couldnt get any worser......

My WinXp on my seperate HD has become corrupt :(

What a night and no, im using IDE hd.

Mega Man X 07-28-2005 12:03 AM

I know the feeling. Last night, I've decided to put a sensor under my processor so the fan on my AMD should be controlled based on the temperature. Well, when everything was set, my computer did not work. Nothing at all. When pressing the power button, just thousands of beeps. Took me a while to figure what the heck it was. I thought I've lost my computer... you've no idea how mad I was. The Incredible Hulk when angry would look like a normal, understanding guy compared to me... LOL.

Anyway, maybe it was not your XP that became corrupt. Since Grub plays with the MBR, it most likely over wrote the MBR. boot with your WinXP CD-Rom, choose Rescue and command line, then type "fixmbr". That should do the trick. A Win98 boot disk could also be handy. If you have one, boot with it, when you reach C:\>, type "fdisk /mbr". That should also fix your problem, but try with WinXP disk first.

See, all those problems that we can get in to. As much as I love Linux, I will just stick with it in different PC's. No more dual-booting. It will come a time when you feel like paying someone to fix your PC, because you have no lust to install all over again. And I want to go the game store and buy a new game knowing it will work. Or a graphics card that is both price and performance a good deal (as ATI's). 300 bucks for a Pro copy of XP is not that much after all... </ no pun intended>...

JediDB 07-28-2005 12:15 AM

Well, tomorrow looks like ill be reinstalling XP plus all my other stuff.

Im delegating weather or not to shy away from Linux now as tonight has been a terrible experience.

Or maybe installing Meis again as that gave me no issues at all apart from it was way too bloated for me.

Bah! is all i can say right now...

JediDB 07-28-2005 12:17 AM

Also, what would happen if i install grub on my 2nd hd where a Linux OS would be? would it still give me a boot option as im very scepticle of installing anything on my main hd now, lol


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