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View Poll Results: did u experience any trouble after upgrading ur present Ubuntu flavour.
yes, and have not gotta fix yet 14 50.00%
yes, and it's a big pain to fix it 3 10.71%
yes, but i fixed it quite easily 3 10.71%
no, it was smooth and easy 8 28.57%
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:19 PM   #1
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Red face Ubuntu 8.10 gets redirected to login window on startup


hi, i recently upgraded my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 . the upgrade went well and aftr it, on restart, the startup hanged and gave an error:
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fence_tool: cman_admin_init error
and something relating to that tried to start cman every 30 secs, but failed, anyhow i went to the terminal(Failsafe Terminal) frm login window
and using "sudo apt-get remove cman libfence3" i removed cman. the startup error message then stopped but the startup still was not successful.

After typing the username and password in login window the desktop appears and the screen shows some strange mixed colour output and then gets redirected to the login window and the same process repeats when i re-enter the username and password.
i tried a fix in this link, but did not work for me either.

i really am desperate to try the new version and strongly need a help.
any advice and fix for the above mentioned problems are appreciated.
Thanks.
 
Old 11-23-2008, 08:53 AM   #2
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another link

here's another link...

If that does not work, please consider posting a bug in ubuntu launchpad

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6107905
 
Old 11-26-2008, 07:12 AM   #3
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i tried that link also, but that also dint work for me. it stated to use a live cd but i did the process in Failsafe Terminal, i think that must also work isn't it(i don't know). But the problems in these links state that cman failed to start after repeatative tries(after every 30 secs),but as i said this problem was solved after i removed cman thru the terminal, in those cases ultimately they would have been logged on to the desktop(don't know exactly),but here the control gets redirected to the login window with strange multicolour display.
however everything was fine in 8.04, just initially i had some problems with video playback which i fixed with this link , could ther be a problem because of that?
waiting desperately for a fix,
pr5439.
 
Old 11-28-2008, 05:25 PM   #4
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anyone? ?
 
Old 12-01-2008, 03:04 AM   #5
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Problem with intel 845 driver and bluetooth doesn't work.
 
Old 12-07-2008, 06:24 AM   #6
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Thumbs down ubuntu 8.10 lack of SIS support!

ubuntu 8.04 supported the sis video driver needed for my slightly older ACER laptop. 8.10 however shows little to no support. The screen is totally crappy. Mandriva one looks perfect and comes standard with SIS video drivers. if Ubuntu does not see fit to address this issue I will be forced to abandon group Ubuntu and switch to someone who supports me better.
Sigh
Dan
 
Old 12-07-2008, 08:25 AM   #7
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I guess I didn't technically *upgrade*, I did a clean install on two machines. A custom PC I built w/ a dual head Nvidia video card, and an Acer 5315-2153 laptop. On both machines, almost everything worked out of the box when I installed 8.10, and I found some improvements over 8.04.

The only thing I had to do after the install(other than installing some preferred software, removing some software, codecs, etc.)..

1. On the desktop, set up the restricted driver for my Dual screens
2. On my laptop, set up my Atheros wireless device. With Hardy, this required a custom compiled version of madwifi and a patch. Intrepid, all I had to do was install the restricted-backports from the CD, and it worked perfectly.

IGF

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Old 12-07-2008, 08:41 AM   #8
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u mean to say, a clean install instead of upgrade is a better option rite....?
i mean the strange(multicolur, distorted) display would also go....?
 
Old 12-07-2008, 03:15 PM   #9
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u mean to say, a clean install instead of upgrade is a better option rite....?
i mean the strange(multicolur, distorted) display would also go....?
Honestly, I couldn't tell you if one is better than the other, I never have done an upgrade. I always back up all important files, and do a clean install, and I've never had a problem.

IGF
 
Old 12-08-2008, 07:37 AM   #10
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IGF could you go over backing up?? I tried BACKUP program for ubuntu and it didnt seem to do much of anything. I am willing to do a clean install but I ama afraid of losing all my important settings and files.
anything you can do to assist would be greatly appreciated by all of us with issues!!

Sincerely

Dan
 
Old 12-08-2008, 07:39 AM   #11
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pr5439 I share your grief ovr the display. I have an Acer 5200 with SIS display driver that looks horrible.expecially compared to other acers running Linux.
Dan
 
Old 12-08-2008, 10:10 AM   #12
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IGF could you go over backing up?? I tried BACKUP program for ubuntu and it didnt seem to do much of anything. I am willing to do a clean install but I ama afraid of losing all my important settings and files.
anything you can do to assist would be greatly appreciated by all of us with issues!!

Sincerely

Dan
I don't use any sort of program to back up, I just back up important files. Music, Movies, Videos, As for settings, I have an open office word file that I record all my "preferred" settings in, and how to implement them if they're not obvious. This can be for simnple things, like font colors for certain events in an IRC client, or how my desktop theme is set up (I also have those files backed up). Also if I have some tricky hardware to set up, I have it in this file how to do it, so I'm not Googling all over again.

I came up with this idea when I was distro hopping. I'd finally get a program to work how I wanted, then for some reason I'd want to change distros, and I'd end up re-configuring it all again, sometimes successful, sometimes not.

Its a tad tedius, but it works well for me. Generally when I do a clean install, I have all of my files back on disk, programs installed/removed, and settings set how I want them, in about an hour.

IGF
 
Old 12-14-2008, 09:19 PM   #13
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I gave Ubuntu 8.10 a couple of tries and was horrified at the results. Wireless wouldn't work, my video chip which was automatically recognized and the monitor correctly set by 8.04 seems not to be supported anymore, though the drivers appear to be included in the distro; max. resolution was 800x600 which is really not great on a 1440x900 screen ... I also tried the Kubuntu flavor of Hardy Heron (8.04 LTS) and was aghast at what KDE has apparently become. So I'm sticking with regular Ubuntu 8.04 and feel grateful that at least one variety does work pretty much without a hitch for me. This is on my (are you ready for this?) Everex gBook. OK, so I'm not wealthy. I think it's a great machine for around $300....

On my desktop, a custom Ibex computer, no problems to speak of using Gutsy Gibbon. I don't have any immediate plans to "upgrade." Every time I upgrade to something "improved" it means a bunch of things are broken and I have to spend a week fixing them -- with luck.

So Gusty [EDIT: should be Gutsy, but I kind of like "Gusty"] on desktop, Hardy on gBook, and soon-to-be-renamed Ubuntu-eee on my little EeePC Surf.

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Old 12-16-2008, 06:25 AM   #14
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i share ur thoughts jonr and i personally too feel that Hardy Heron(8.04 LTS)was much more stable and compatible to most of the hardwares, and i too am going to switch back to 8.04. But anyhow, what does a upgrade mean when it its performance downgrades. i have an intel graphics card which was not much compatible to Ubuntu, but it was managable with some changes in 8.04LTS ,but it did not work at all in the upgraded version so what does an upgrade means??
 
Old 12-16-2008, 12:25 PM   #15
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Complete agreement here. The word "upgrade" now raises a red flag for me -- every "upgrade" I've done in the last few years has represented at least three steps backwards and countless hours of frustration trying to fix things it broke.

I believe this is because designers think everybody wants the latest largely untested "features" for gaming, special-effects, chat, free-Internet-phone-call, and so on.

I'd rather have a computer that actually works, without half its disk space being consumed by junk that I never wanted in the first place -- but that cannot be deleted without destroying the operation of the entire system (does the word "Gnome" come to mind?)....
 
  


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