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Old 09-23-2011, 03:02 AM   #1
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trouble upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04, don't have the right hardware?


I presently have Ubuntu 10.10 having upgraded from 10.04 a few weeks ago. This is not the first time i have upgrade between these two but that is a story for another post. i have attempted to upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 each time it end in disaster. My PC is an old Gateway Profile all in one. The last times tried to upgrade I went through the Synaptic Packager Manager and let it go through its routine. When it was through it told me that 11.04 had been successfully installed on my PC. However no sooner had i closed out of SPM when i was greeted with a message about changing from Classic to and here I forget what the other choice was, in any case i did not know where to look to change or keep what I had. That in and of itself would not have been so bad, but for my not being able to open anything. I would place the cursor on the Firefox icon and click. instead of it coming up there would be a millisecond of lights and I could see the Firefox browser then it was gone. I tried again an the result was the same. A brief flash then a black screen. This would happen with every icon i had.
I could not even reboot it, for even that was but a brief illumination then gone before I could click anything. In the end i had to shut down the Computer by the power button. I restarted hoping this would fix whatever was the matter? It did not. It was then i remembered the last time before this when i tried to upgrade and saw something about not having the proper hardware? It was something like that unfortunately i can not give the exact wording. The only way to find it would be for me to go through the installation process again, which is something I will not do until this mystery is solved.
I had a Ubuntu which I could not access in effect a useless PC. I had and still have the Ubuntu Cd disc for 10.04 which i had used to install Ubuntu over a year ago. i used it to write over the 11.04. Since then i have successfully upgraded through the Synaptic Package Manager to what I have at present the Ubuntu 10.10. I would like to upgrade to 11.04 but i don't want to end up where i was before? had anyone heard of an upgrade being hindered or in some manner caused to go awry because of the PC not having the 'right' or correct hardware? This is what my PC had:
Gateway Profile 5S, Celeron 2.6 Ghz, 1GB RAM, 160 GB HD
Can someone enlighten me as to what hardware I might be missing and why when i have had no trouble upgrading from my earliest Ubuntu a 9.04 through my present 10.10? Is it because of the age of my PC or is it something that this 11.04 has thrown in to give me grief? i am being sarcastic about the giving me grief line, almost Has anyone heard of someone else having a similar problem? Did they find a solution or did they like me rewrite over the offensive one? Hope someone can point me in a direction for an answer?
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Old 09-23-2011, 04:40 AM   #2
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There is never a guarantee of an upgrade completing correctly. Anyhow here is a guide to upgrading using a live cd.

How to Upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 using Ubuntu Live CD This way if it messes up you at least have the cd to do a clean install with.

No matter which method you use to update (internet or live cd) remember to backup any important data before starting.

Using the update manager is convenient but I find I get more success upgrading when doing it via the terminal.

The sequence is:
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sudo apt-get update <-- Check the repositories for updates for current distro version. 

sudo apt-get upgrade <-- Apply updates to current distro version.

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <-- Upgrade current distro to next distro release.

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Old 09-23-2011, 05:30 AM   #3
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Okay, I can see where a Live CD or using the Internet may be better then going through the Package Manager as I did. Can you see any reason why I was told i did not have the right hardware? Between the two options would you say the live CD is the better choice?
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:53 AM   #4
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Who says you don't have the right hardware? What graphics card do you have? Can you run compiz? In order to use the new unity interface your graphics card must be capable of running compiz. If it can't then the desktop falls back to running the gnome panel as in previous versions of ubuntu.

Before doing your upgrade, did you first make sure that you applied all updates to your current distro first? Maybe during the distro upgrade some files failed to download, and therefore never got installed. After the upgrade did you check all files had downloaded successfully by reloading in synaptic then checking for updates?

You could spend more time trying to figure out what (if anything) went wrong, than if you just did a fresh install. That's one of the good things about GNU/Linux, you could be back up and running in no time at all.

I think the cd option is the better option. Firstly you can check if your machine can successfully run 11.04 by running in live mode. Second you don't have to worry about the internet going down, you have all you need on the cd. Finally if for some unknown reason the upgrade fails, providing you could run 11.04 in live mode, a clean install should also work.

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Old 09-23-2011, 10:20 AM   #5
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Synaptic is not really a tool for version upgrades. You may not have gotten everything upgraded correctly.

Have you run;
Code:
sudo dpkg --configure -a
?

This could be run by booting to recovery and running it from the prompt there.

You may not have the hardware that is compatible with Ubuntu although your box looks like it should be new enough. Have you considered Xubuntu? Xfce4 is a VERY nice DE.
 
Old 09-24-2011, 12:41 AM   #6
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{BBI}Nexus{BBI},

After what I thought was a successful upgrade a window showed up on my screen saying I did not have the proper hardware. Then as I described before it all went wrong. I did not make sure my current set up was up to date before trying to do an upgrade. That may have been a factor in it all going south. After the upgrade I was unable to access anything. i could not open any of the icons at the top, not System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager or any of the others. I would click there'd be a flash then nothing. I may have to look at getting a Live Cd. Can i go to the Ubuntu website and burn (if that's the right word) Ubuntu 11.04 onto a CD RW then use it as a clean install?

widget,

I apparently had the right hardware for my previous Ubuntu's from 9.04 to 9.10 then 10.04 and finally 10.10 . I typed in the code and nothing happened.

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Old 09-24-2011, 06:14 AM   #7
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'Insufficient hardware' to run unity, that happens.

It could be due to drivers, but is more likely that your video hardware just isnt advanced enough to run unity.

I'm not quite sure that video card you have in your Gateway Profile 5S system, it could be nVidia FX5200 or intel i8XX (I'd guess its intel i8XX, and if I recall correctly i8XX will not have enough video power for unity).

The problem is due to canonical changing from gnoem 2.X as a desktop to unity. Ubuntu should drop back into 'classic gnome' mode with 11.04 if your hardware isnt up to running unity, but it seems that you've found a bug in that.

If you really want to upgrade to 11.04, I'd take widgets advice and try xubuntu 11.04. Xubuntu doesnt have the video hardware requirements that unity has.
 
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Can i go to the Ubuntu website and burn (if that's the right word) Ubuntu 11.04 onto a CD RW then use it as a clean install?
Yes you can. Before doing that do:
Code:
lspci
Post the results here. It might save you from wasting your time downloading 11.04 Unity version.
 
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:55 PM   #9
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Here is what came up;

bill48@bill48-desktop:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) integrated LAN Controller (rev 02)
01:0c.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
01:0c.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4510 IEEE-1394 Controller

I was looking through an old notebook for something else when I came across an entry I had made concerning my problems with upgrading to 11.04 "The configuration default for GNOME Power Management have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator."

Does what the above result from code lspci and the information about the Gnome Power Management shed some light on the issue? Also does it show whether I have what is needed for Ubuntu 11.04 and unity?
 
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Looks like your're not going to be able to run the Unity interface with your current graphics card. See here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/inde...t-1745151.html

You might want to do as suggested above and install Xubuntu 11.04 instead.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 10:12 AM   #11
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Or even better than Xubuntu 11.04, you might want to try Lubuntu 11.04 with the LXDE desktop. Lubuntu is much lighter on computer resources than K/X/Ubuntus; and it would likely run much better on an old laptop.
http://lubuntu.net/
 
Old 09-26-2011, 07:05 PM   #12
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I have downloaded: xubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso. I have not done anything else mainly because I am not sure what the next step is? I know it has something to do with burning a CD, at least I think it does? I did check out that lubuntu site but could not find a kink to download, it could be there and I just missed it? About the xubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso, I happen to right and the first thing on the list was "Open with Brasero Disc Burner" Do I open it using that or what do I need to do?
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:21 PM   #13
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I happen to right and the first thing on the list was "Open with Brasero Disc Burner" Do I open it using that or what do I need to do?
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You could do it that way. Or open Brasero yourself and select the Burn Image option.
 
Old 09-26-2011, 09:11 PM   #14
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Opening with Brasero will insure that it is burned as an image file automatically. You might like that, one less thing to worry about.

Do make sure that it is burned at the slowest speed possible (there is a button on the dialog window (center/lower right) to take you to where you can check that.

Before doing that you should go back to the page where you downloaded from and get the "md5sum" for the ISO. Then generate a md5sum for the ISO file that you have following these directions;
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM

This will assure you that the image you downloaded did not become corrupted in transit to your box from the server. This should be done with all images that you download.
 
Old 09-27-2011, 01:55 AM   #15
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I was set to use Brasero to burn the xubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso but I was told by Brasero, I did not have enough space for the burn. The CD RW I was going to use was 80min/700MB 1x-4x Compatibility. The xubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso was 689MB. How much space should I have?
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