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Hello LQ People,
I wish to know the best of Ubuntu compare with fedora and opensuse.
Thank you for the birthday card, I move back to Colombia, I´m RubioColombia but I will not change.
Please ubuntu people, contact me with linux groups in Cali, Colombia.
Thank you,
Jorge
The best of ubuntu is that its a derivative of debian hence it inherits the good qualities of it parent distro, Debian. Debian has a wonderful package management system called deb. The tools that are build around deb are excellent like apt-get, synaptic, etc. The fedora , opensuse & similar guys may claim that their rpm is just as good as bed, but they are wrong. I have used both fedora & ubuntu hence i speak from my experience. The apt-get is far superior to yum in fedora. IMHO Yum sucks. Its too slow & their are alomost always news of conflicting repositories. The packages that you want are almost always available in conflicting repositories. Fedora has very poor documentation of it own & ppl using it have to depends on paid version to know things, which to me seems a ugly hack.
Apart from that ubuntu has its very own nice things like upstart, launchpad & rosetta which you are unlikely to find any equivalents in fedora or opensuse. The Novell - Microsoft deal makes feel bad about Novell products, hence i dont like opensuse.
PS : I find your language skill poor. I dont understand most part of what you have said. I made a post on what i could make of it. I would be nice if you could imporve upon your language skills.
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As mentioned, I also like Ubuntu's package manager (Synaptics and Aptitude). It makes installing packages really easy as opposed to the other RPM based distros I have tried. Ubuntu also has centralized repositories so you don't have to worry about updating sites. I also don't understand why some claim the RPM's to be superior and easy to use. I also have had very little success installing/uninstalling packages using RPM's, especially when I run into dependency hell problems! It's so annoying. I'm actually going through this right now with the new CentOS5. It's messy!!!
Additionally, Ubuntu is only 1 CD whereas all these other distros are multiple CD's which is pretty annoying. Also their official Ubuntu forum has great support and there are a lot of how-to's about Ubuntu.
RubioHonolulu, I was just in Honolulu for the first time 2-weeks ago! I loved the weather and people in Hawaii and would like to visit the other islands in the near future.
Additionally, Ubuntu is only 1 CD whereas all these other distros are multiple CD's which is pretty annoying.
It's both an advantage and a disadvantage if your box is not connected to the internet.
Other distros supply 'everything' (and therefor need multiple CDs), so the same CD set can be used for a server or a desktop. Want a server, select the server packages; want gnome, select gnome packages; want KDE, select KDE packages.
Last time I used a multi CD set was RH8 and I liked the approach.
The best of ubuntu is that its a derivative of debian hence it inherits the good qualities of it parent distro, Debian. Debian has a wonderful package management system called deb. The tools that are build around deb are excellent like apt-get, synaptic, etc. The fedora , opensuse & similar guys may claim that their rpm is just as good as bed, but they are wrong. I have used both fedora & ubuntu hence i speak from my experience. The apt-get is far superior to yum in fedora. IMHO Yum sucks. Its too slow & their are alomost always news of conflicting repositories. The packages that you want are almost always available in conflicting repositories. Fedora has very poor documentation of it own & ppl using it have to depends on paid version to know things, which to me seems a ugly hack.
Apart from that ubuntu has its very own nice things like upstart, launchpad & rosetta which you are unlikely to find any equivalents in fedora or opensuse. The Novell - Microsoft deal makes feel bad about Novell products, hence i dont like opensuse.
PS : I find your language skill poor. I dont understand most part of what you have said. I made a post on what i could make of it. I would be nice if you could imporve upon your language skills.
Better not complain about someone else making mistakes when one's own post is full of them...
Apart from that, deb is not a package manager, it's the file format for a debian package. apt-get retrieves the files over the internet, when there are missing dependencies, and dpkg actually installs them.
I too thought that the superiority of Debian & its progeny (deliberate pun, no flames please) is the APT tool set & the .deb format.
Wrong! -- according to the cognoscenti it's actually Debian Policy that makes the difference. Since this policy is enabled through the .deb format & enforced by the APT tools, we tend to perceive them as the source of the goodness.
Additionally, Ubuntu is only 1 CD whereas all these other distros are multiple CD's which is pretty annoying. Also their official Ubuntu forum has great support and there are a lot of how-to's about Ubuntu.
Fedora 7 has single disc releases which have KDE (like Kubuntu) and the other has GNOME (like the main Ubuntu release). It also has a cd set and dvd that contains the entire distro.
As for package management, you can use apt/synaptic on rpm based distros, since they have been ported to rpm based distros a while back. I remember using apt/synaptic on Redhat 8, 9 and early releases of Fedora Core. Also yum has improved a lot in FC7 and is now a lot faster than in previous releases. As for openSUSE, you can also use apt/synaptic if you wish, but I personally prefer SMART (which works on other rpm and non rpm based distros). One thing to note is that rpm is not the same type of tool as apt (its a common mistake that many Debian fans make). RPM is similar to DPKG on Debian and they have more or less the same pros and cons hence the need for tools like apt, yum, urpmi etc.
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