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10-29-2006, 03:12 PM
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Austria
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Smart ways to update from dapper to edgy?
Right now dapper works perfectly, so I don't want to give it up yet, but I'd also like to try out edgy. I've installed it on a spare harddisk, but I don't want to take the time to tweak it all the way again.
I thought I might copy my whole dapper harddisk to my second 80 gig drive, and update the copied version to see if it works. (I have exchangeable harddrives, so I don't need a bootloader). Could this work? How do I copy the whole thing, so it basically resembles my dapper disk?
And is it even a good idea, or would it be better to just reinstall everything? Of course I would still keep my home directory in that case.
I like some of the features alot. Suspend now works on my pc, gaim has file transfair for icq - well, little things.
I'm already drooling over feisty. So I'll be going a similiar route again, in a few months.
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10-29-2006, 08:56 PM
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Upgrading using Update Manager is the recommended method. It worked well for me. If you want to play it safe copy your home directory to a spare disk partition or other back up method.
If you want to upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 6.10, run the following command (either via ALT-F2 or a terminal):
gksu "update-manager -c -d"
The "-d" switch instructs Update Manager to consider pre-release versions, including this Beta release. Without this switch, only official, final releases will be considered. The "-c" switch tells it to look for upgrades at all. By default the 6.06 LTS release will not offer that automatically because of its long support cycle and high stability.
If you have a working network connection, it should then inform you about a new release and offer to upgrade your system.
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10-29-2006, 11:17 PM
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Registered: Feb 2006
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well...
It shouldn't consider pre-released versions - efty is out already. But thanks for the advice, I would have upgraded with apt.
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10-30-2006, 06:51 AM
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For God's sake, don't update with apt - I've done that twice now (Breezy > Dapper and Dapper > Edgy) both times I've had horrible problems (still got them!)
I wish I had done the Update-Manager route if that's the preferred - I only wanted to use APT so I could watch all of the pretty orange text scroll by...
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10-30-2006, 07:34 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Australia
Distribution: Lots ...
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Why are people using Ubuntu if the feel they "have to" upgrade to the latest (???) beta.
And then whinge and bitch because F/F 2 doesn't work - or sound, or wifi, or ...
Betas are put out so you can help find (and shoot) any bugs.
Not madly rush it into everyday use ...
Ho hum.
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10-30-2006, 08:38 AM
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Edgy isnt in beta anymore its in final release
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10-30-2006, 05:01 PM
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Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Distribution: Ubuntu 7.10 on a System 76 Pangolin Value laptop - sweeeet!
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I upgraded swiftly and completely with absolutely no problem using the command:
gksudo "update-manager -c"
Worked perfectly. Very happy.
The only arduous part of the proccess was in searching online forums for this (by demonstration) correct method, which I personally don't mind, given that having to research a problem is a learning opportunity. However, that said, my only suggestion is that for future upgrades, some big-banner announcement on this method should be on the Ubuntu home page. I say this becsue already I've read undeserved bad press on "problems" in doing the upgrade. Ubuntu doesn't deserve bad press of any kind that I found. I love it and now have even my wife's laptop "upgraded" to "Edgy" from Windows, and she's happy.
Last edited by cwej; 10-30-2006 at 08:23 PM.
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10-30-2006, 07:23 PM
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowfx78
Edgy isnt in beta anymore its in final release
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Oooooppps .... 
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10-30-2006, 08:45 PM
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Fresno CA USA
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We all want an install that works flawlessly. But is that reasonable expectation. Ubuntu has a supported repository which I'd expect would be pretty well ironed out. Universe and multiverse have additional aps which although packaged for Ubuntu are community supported. Some miscellaneous tarball that we compile is another story altogether. The way I see it the responsibility of the Ubuntu team diminishes as we get farther and farther away from the supported packages. We can't compare Linux to OS X for example because it isn't the free for all of applications available on Linux. There's only one window manager and a hand picked set of applications. With X the text editor is the text editor and with Ubuntu, the number of text editors available is huge. Many of those use different libraries which further increases the number of permutations. OS X is a controlled system with limited choices compared to Linux. That fact makes it much more manageable to deliver a totally stable system. Its quite reasonable to have high expectations of a manageable set of software. Ubuntu has a core set of capabilities that are somewhat manageable but our freedom to mix and match or mix and break make the totality of whats available for Ubuntu almost infinite. Temper that with "free of charge," I'll settle for bearing with a few problems until they're fixed and for me any way I'll skip trashing the Ubuntu team.
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10-30-2006, 10:41 PM
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Berkeley, CA
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I updated 3 computers from 6.06 using the gksu "update-manager -c" via the internet. All went well except my 1 Kubuntu machine. All I had to do to get the X server back on was to change my "nv" driver section in my xorg.conf back to "nvidia" and that was it. I don't understand how people are breaking their system upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10. They must have a lot of unsupported files or something.
To be on the safe side, use the 'dd' command to mirror your drive to the extra hard drive.
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10-31-2006, 12:25 AM
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If Dapper is working great, you can use PartImage to back up your partition as is and then upgrade to Edgy.
If the upgrade gets to ugly for you to want to deal with, you can use PartImage to restore your backed up partition image and have Dapper back exactly the way it was before.
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10-31-2006, 02:44 AM
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Registered: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by aysiu
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Excellent, thanks...
Good to hear nobody had any major trouble so far. I might not have time to upgrade before the weekend.
I'll report back.
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11-27-2006, 12:53 PM
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11-27-2006, 02:49 PM
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I might be the oddball among us, but I read horror stories about upgrading to Edgy from Dapper(I noticed several success stories here, which I hadn't seen)..
I backed up all my data files to an external Hard drive, downloaded the complete Edgy ISO, burned it, and just overwrote my Dapper install...
Its worked perfectly up to this point.
IGF
Last edited by IndyGunFreak; 11-27-2006 at 09:16 PM.
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11-27-2006, 05:40 PM
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That is certainly the safest way to do an upgrade and many long time Linux users will recommend it. I upgraded my Dapper to 6.10 with the one line command recommended on the Ubuntu site. My upgrade was very successful but I did backup /home to an unused partition just in case.
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