Program running bot not visible?

nardz · 01-06-2008, 01:40 AM

I dont know if this belongs here because I am using Linux Mint KDE, but i figured this is the closest forum for it.

When i start my computer the programs that usually start up (or that were left running when powering down) sometimes don't appear, but they are actually running in memory.

in this case the program is kopete. but sometimes its knetworkmanager also.

i'm also running compiz desktop

Screenshot

jschiwal · 01-06-2008, 05:51 PM

I think your best bet may be to kill those processes and delete any stale .pid files in /var/run/.

nardz · 01-06-2008, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jschiwal

I think you best bet may be to kill those processes and delete any stale .pid files in /var/run/.

i always do kill the processes, but it happens again, if not the next time, the time after that.

i havent tried deleting files in /var/run/ though, i'll try that next time. thanks

jschiwal · 01-06-2008, 07:13 PM

Do any of these programs have .pid files in /var/run. If such a file isn't deleted when powering down, when the service or program starts up again when you boot, it will think there already is an instance of it running.

Does Linux Mint use kde? If not and you run certain KDE programs, there could be a problem if you don't have the kde daemons running.

I'm don't know if there could be a problem due to compiz. dmesg could show some problems during startup. ~/.xsession-errors might show something as well. The latter might be used by an effected program to log the errors.

nardz · 01-07-2008, 12:36 AM

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../snapshot2.jpg another screenshot of another similar issues. this time the programs run as a small window with just the icon. they're usually all on top of eachother, for the screenshot i've moved them all around so that they are all visible.

linux mint is normally gnome, but i'm running the kde community edition.

these are the following existing .pid files. i dont think any of them are for the programs that are running

Code:

nader@nader-vaio:/var/run$ ls -l *.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 5 2008-01-07 16:52 atd.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 5 2008-01-07 16:52 crond.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 4 2008-01-07 16:52 dhcdbd.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 5 2008-01-07 16:57 dhclient.eth1.pid
-rw------- 1 root  root 4 2008-01-07 16:51 ipw3945d.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 5 2008-01-07 16:52 kdm.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 4 2008-01-07 16:52 powersaved.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 statd root 5 2008-01-07 16:52 rpc.statd.pid
-rw------- 1 root  root 5 2008-01-07 16:52 sm-notify.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 5 2008-01-07 16:52 syslogd.pid

ive attached my xsession errors here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/81889419...rrors.txt.html

jschiwal · 01-09-2008, 07:34 PM

Check if the kded daemon is running. It might not be. For some reason, only the first three items were put in the system tray. A quick and dirty test to see if you have a general kde problem or a problem with your personal settings in ~/.kde is to create a new user and see if the same problems are present for the new user. If so, you may need to re-install some of the kde packages. Or at least validate them with the command: "kde -qV <package-name>".

nardz · 01-23-2008, 11:23 PM

still no progress with this. kded daemon, would that just be called kded in ksysguard? if so then yes it is running

nardz · 01-24-2008, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jschiwal

Check if the kded daemon is running. It might not be. For some reason, only the first three items were put in the system tray. A quick and dirty test to see if you have a general kde problem or a problem with your personal settings in ~/.kde is to create a new user and see if the same problems are present for the new user. If so, you may need to re-install some of the kde packages. Or at least validate them with the command: "kde -qV <package-name>".

i tried to create a newuser, and it seems that the problems are not present, only in my user account.

so is there any way to fix it without creating a new user and losing all my personalisation?