Ian...

OK - replying from work, buyt will do that this evening when I get home.

Thanks!
Optiker

I've used Automatix for the better part of 6mo, never had 1 single problem with it.

I always "hear" about problems with Automatix, but people always just say it "broke their system", well, what did it do specifically?

IGF

Well...I was going to just provide a link to the thread on the Automatix forum for Dapper support where I went for help with the problem, but having searched the Automatix forum for the thread, I find it has apparently been deleted. Arnieboy did not seem too happy with me - he's convinced that there's a great K/Ubuntu conspiracy where they cause these things to break and blame it all on Automatix, and I'm just another whiner that's buying the K/Ubuntu line.

So, you can go to the following link for the thread that I posted here looking for help...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=504515

If you follow the thread to the end, you'll find I eventually gave up. I eventually reinstalled Dapper, and vowed to never again use Automatix...not entirely sure about EasyUbuntu yet.

Automatix is a great idea that would go a long way towards making K/Ubuntu friendlier for the average non-geek potential convert to Linux. Unfortunately, regardless of whose fault it is, the potential for driving users away is too great. After all, when the hype sends the message "use **** to set up K/Ubuntu - it's such a no-brainer that any dummy can set up a Linux machine" then find that it breaks the setup, why would a potential convert want to keep beating his head against that wall?

The "horror stories" regarding Automatix are not limited to these forums. I've read similar in a number of other K/Ubuntu newsgroups and forums - as apparetnly binary_y2k2 has..

End of mini-rant! Probably get flamed by Automatix activists, but, that's where my experience left me in that regard.

My 2-cents worth! As always, YMMV - and in your case, apparently does.
Optiker

Ian...I went back to your original reply. I also used ayisu's uninstall script to uninstall the ver 2 that his install script had installed. Hopefully this got me back to where I started. I had fiddled with the pointer in the KMenu Firefox settings, so restored it to the only thing I could find which was a firefox script in the /usr/bin folder, the entry on the KMenu editor being '/usr/bin/firefox1.5'

Now, it runs Firefox 1.5. When I run it from the console I get the following very long output...my reply continues below the console output...
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X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
Major opcode: 144
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
Major opcode: 144
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(firefox-bin:5859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

-----------------------------------

So, I went back to your original reply and am trying to manually install FF 2 following your instructions. I managed the first line...creating the /usr/local/firefox folder. But, when I tried to run the next line, had problems. I had DLed the file from Mozilla to my /home/Downloads folder, and tried opening a terminal there to do this operation as well as just opening a terminal that I assume is in the root. Here's my terminal output...
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optiker@dell:~$ sudo tar -xzvf -C /usr/local/firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz
tar: -C: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: /usr/local/firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
optiker@dell:~$
------------------------------------

What am I doing wrong and where do I go from here?

Thanks!
Optiker

Here is how i went about aquireing the latest version of fire fox. I simply edited my /etc/apt/sources.list file and changed every accureance of dapper to edgy eft, Then i rebooted and opened a terminal window ans issued the followin command string update-manager -c and upgraded directly from dapper to edgy in turn updating firefox to 2.0.5 and ever othe key system component to it latest stable release.

Yes, I am aware of that meethod. At this point, other then Firefox, I'm just trying to get a stable, working verions of Dapper. I'm having enough problems with Dapper as it is witout taking on anything new in Edgy.

Thanks anyhow!
Optiker

Ignore the -C switch, and then move the resultant directory called "firefox" to /usr/local.

Your problem in the above command is you need a space between /usr/local/ and firefox...

--Ian

Ian...maybe I'm just digging the hole deeper...

At the point of my last post to you, I had run FF from the terminal resulting in ver. 1.5 opening, and giving the terminal messages I posted back. I was surprised that when I closed the terminal, Firefox also closed - guess that must be normal? I was also surprised that it would not run at all from the KMenu launch. In the KMenu editor, the enry was '/usr/bin/firefox1.5'

Since then, I've uninstalled Firefox from Adept, then reinstalled it from Adept, trying to get back to where it was when I started this thread. However, it is where it was before I uninstalled. Ver 1.5 runs from the terminal with the messages shown in my previous post, and closes when I close the terminal.

I think that if I wasn't so frustrated with it, I'd reinstall Kubuntu and hope for the best.

Suggestions?

Thanks!
Optiker

Ian...on my old machine (wife using new one!), also Dapper, same situation. Here's what I did and result from terminal...am still doing something wrong.
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optiker@optiker-micron:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox
Password:
optiker@optiker-micron:~$ sudo tar -xzvf /usr/local/ firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz
tar: /usr/local/: Cannot read: Is a directory
tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
optiker@optiker-micron:~$
-----------------

Was I supposed to run that first mkdir line before the wsecond line?

Incidenatlly, on this computer, the Fir4efox install is (was?) still untouched. The entry n the KMenu Edit window for Firefox is firefox %u. When I run from a terminal, I get...

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optiker@optiker-micron:~$ firefox
optiker@optiker-micron:~$
-------------------------

...and ver 1.5 opens ust as it does from the KMenu.

Masybe if we can get it done on the old machine, I can also get it done on the new one.

Thanks!
Optiker

Thanks all, especially Ian. I finally managed to get it done. Took some digging to learn how to move that firefox folder using the shell, and experimenting to learn what to point the KMenu button to, but finally got it done.

I guess this thread is closed.

Optiker

Well done!

Thanks! That's the frosting on the cake!

Optiker

I always found swiftfox the easiest (and fastest) http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm


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