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Old 04-10-2012, 04:31 PM   #1
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Hi!

I'm a bit confabulated about Xbuntu and how to go about installing it in my Dell 2400. Here is the situation: #1. I'm both physically and mentally handicapped. I have a great deal in comprehending instructions, no matter how simple they are. It's all due to my liver disease because I didn't take care of myself when I first got Type II diabetes. I'm not looking for pity as I did this to myself.

I've ordered 2 gigs of P-2700 RAM strips which should help Liinux run faster. I have WINDOWS XP HOME on the computer now, along with some data I can't afford to lose (antenna configurations). The Phillips DVD R-W-R player doesn't work and I don't have one to replace it, so I'll have to use the CD player.

The hard drive is an old 89 gig that came with the computer. I have about 48 gigs of free space on the drive and I'd like to dual-boot either WIN or Xbuntu. I've been told that either Xbuntu 10.4 or 10.10 would be easier for me to get used to for my ham radio digital communications programs. I want to do this right and not screw up the computer as I don't have the CD to re-install HOME or the recovery disk. The computer was given to me.

I've looked for Xbuntu 10.4 and 10.10, but I've had no luck in finding them to do what I want. Some just load it off the CD, never installing it and I can't see where I can save any of my Linux work. I feel like an iD10t.

Is there someone out there that can help me out? I'd be so grateful.

Respectfully submitted,
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Buck
 
Old 04-10-2012, 04:41 PM   #2
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Before you do anything I would recommend making a clone of your current OS so you can roll-back if you need to. Look on cnet or another reputable download site for a decent ghost or clone software. Once you have your stuff backed up then you should look at installing a secondary OS.
 
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:27 PM   #3
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If your CD player will write to a CD then;
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/re...10.04/release/

Will get you the ISO image.

There are also a lot of companies out there that will sell you a Live CD at very reasonable cost.

I now live were there is DSL but when I was working on a ranch "up on top" (top of the divide) we had very slow dialup. Bought a lot of CDs from this outfit;
http://www.linuxcd.org/

Great service and fast delivery time.

10.10 will not be supported after the release of 12.04 (end of this month). 10.04 LTS (Long Term Service) will have another year after 12.04 is released. 12.04 is also a LTS release. You can directly upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.

I would not recommend doing that until some time this fall when the bugs have been worked out. That said, 12.04 uses Xfce4.8 instead of the 4.6 used in 10.04 (I think (could be 4.4 for all I know). There is nothing wrong with those older versions.

Xfce4.8 is a lot better.

I use Xfce4.8 under Debian testing (what Ubuntu bases their LTS releases on). I also have Xubuntu 12.04-testing installed.

While I really think the Debian Xfce OS is better than Xubuntu, Xubuntu 12.04-testing is a very nice OS. It has given me very few problems (old testers like me prefer some problems during the testing cycle), been a boring cycle.

Part of this is due to the introduction of gtk3. There is nothing wrong with it but Xfce4.8 still uses the older (more stable) gtk2. So there is really little change in Xubuntu except for the core Ubuntu packages that it is built on. This means that it should be a very solid release.

So, if you are using Xubuntu, get 10.04 and you can, in the next year, upgrade to 12.04.

While the main Ubuntu 12.04 is going to have support for 5 years for the desktop version, until 17.04 comes out, Xubuntu is only going to have the traditional Ubuntu support for LTS releases of 3 years, until 15.04 is released.

Would not worry about that, Ubuntu is just starting the new LTS 5 year policy and some of the teams for Ubuntu "family" members like Xfce just are not big enough to deal with that length of support yet. They are very sensibly sticking with 3 years to make sure that the support is solid.

As the kernel packages and several other core packages are part of the "ubuntu-minimal" package those packages will have the 5 years of support. That is where most of your security upgrades come from anyway.
 
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:40 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckNekkid View Post
I've been told that either Xbuntu 10.4 or 10.10 would be easier for me to get used to for my ham radio digital communications programs.
10.10 is just about out of support, and would be a bad idea. 12.04 is (obviously) only a couple of weeks away, and you might choose to wait for that. 10.04, and 11.10 would be other options.

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I want to do this right and not screw up the computer as I don't have the CD to re-install HOME or the recovery disk.
You'll have everything backed up, several times, right? And checked that the backups are OK, obviously?

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Originally Posted by BuckNekkid View Post

I've looked for Xbuntu 10.4 and 10.10, but I've had no luck in finding them to do what I want. Some just load it off the CD, never installing it and I can't see where I can save any of my Linux work. I feel like an iD10t.
When you say 'Some just load it off the CD' presumably you mean by running the Live CD?

please confirm that this is exactly what you did:
  • Downloaded the Live CD version
  • Burnt it to a CD
  • Booted the computer from this disk
  • Arrived at a desktop (XFCE, probably, if you meant Xubuntu, Gnome if you meant Ubuntu) which could recognise and found a file manager (which one?) and in which you could explore the filesystem hierarchy and in which you couldn't find any of your existing disk partitions, anywhere?
  • Checked with the 'mount' command which volumes were mounted, and found that there were no signs of hard disk partitions being mounted? (Would be helpful to post the output of 'mount')

Last edited by salasi; 04-11-2012 at 06:42 AM. Reason: first took Xbuntu as a typo for Ubuntu; typo for Xubuntu is more likely?
 
  


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