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Old 06-04-2006, 08:06 PM   #1
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live vs. alternative install


Just thought I'd post. I was very frustrated with the the dapper live cd install, particularly the new partioning tool. It would do things like list a swap partition from a different hard drive and want to format it, and after creating partitions, going to the mount point screen, none of my partitions remotely resembled what I had manually created. I even used fdisk to partition, loaded the live cd install and the same thing happened. So I gave up and used the alternate install cd. This provided the old familiar debian/ubuntu text-based installer (believe it uses disk druid) and things went as smooth as possible.

If you are having trouble, USE THE ALTERNATE INSTALL CD!!! It will save you time and frustration.


Old 06-05-2006, 10:51 AM   #2
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Thanks for the recomendation. I gave up the other night because I kept getting lockups with the live-cd installer so I installed Breezy instead. Nice to know that there's an alternative out there. I guess I'll get to it sometime but I'm pretty content with Breezy for now.
Old 06-05-2006, 11:07 AM   #3
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Yeah, the alternate install went off without a hitch. You'll like the Drake, give him a try. ;-)

Old 06-05-2006, 12:41 PM   #4
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Thanks man. I'll check him out this weekend.
Old 06-05-2006, 06:39 PM   #5
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The old "alternative" installer is the - thoroughly tested, and mature - Debian installer.
The new "live" installer had been shortly introduced while Dapper'd already been Beta (Dapper had a long Alpha stage before the "live" installer had been even there).

The "live" installer came with two of the biggest bugs Ubuntu had to offer after all that years of existance: 1., writing the root/sudo password into a plain-text file, being readable for everyone, and 2., crashing several peoples' harddisks while starting the partitioning task.

Those two bugs have been fixed now that Dapper became a release version. Still I think, introducing the "live" installer's been a short shot. - Hopefully, they've fixed any potential minor bugs, too, - as these were major bugs! - The "alternative" installer, at any rate, is indeed stable, and has been tested for years.

Apart from the installer issues, Dapper, in my eyes, is considered to be extraordinary stable. I just did upgrade to the final release from a very alpha stage, made some mistakes and corrected a (sole) package dependency error (had installed third-party alpha software). I'm saluting Apt's "self-healing" capabilities very much (as I'm a former Windows user)!

To me, Dapper rocks! I've never had better software on my harddisks (including Windows XP and 2003 Server)!
Old 06-07-2006, 10:16 AM   #6
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yeah i have problems while installing from live CD

so i decided to have alternative installer i think it will be better
Old 06-07-2006, 01:47 PM   #7
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I had problems with the live installer CD as well while it was 3/4 parts finished installing. I attributed this to a bad cd, so now I'm downloading the alternate CD, which is actually what I wanted in the first place. I guess I have to pay more attention to what I'm downloading.
At home I'm running Dapper as an upgrade from Breezy and I'm loving it.
Old 06-07-2006, 02:21 PM   #8
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I had no problems on my home desktop at all ---- the install was perfect and the partitioning was not an issue, though I did use my already set up partitions. I was so impressed with Dapper that I decided to put it on a failing box at work. QTParted misreported everything -- and wouldn't be told what the correct partition structure was. I tried and tried. And tried again. Failure. I gave up for the day (yesterday) and will attack again tomorrow.

And Dapper?

Just FANTASTIC (so far!)
Old 12-28-2006, 09:47 AM   #9
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Whish I read this sooner!

This weekend, while installing ubuntu edgy for my dad on an aging computer, the livecd installer would hang while opening the partitioner. The computer had less ram than I would have liked and the livecd ran slower than comfortable.

At any rate, I ended up downloading the alternative cd on another computer and using its text installer instead.

Wow, what a difference!

From now on, I am carrying that cd around to install for other people. It may not look as pretty, but it gets the job done!

Old 12-28-2006, 09:23 PM   #10
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Frequently when people have trouble installing from the LiveCD the cause is the CD media. After you click the install ID there will be an opportunity to check the media. This is highly advisable and eliminates media as a problem part way through the install.


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