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Old 01-11-2014, 05:10 PM   #1
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Question Latest Ubuntu, is it necessary?


I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu, but I understand that 12.04.3 LTS is for long term support. Will that version of Ubuntu support the Asus Sabertooth Z87 motherboard correctly? or would it be more sensible to get one of the newer Ubuntu's such as 13.10.

After searching for compatibility info and such, I found little tidbits of information, such as problems with UEFI or that Vt-d does not work and so on.

I think you guys get the idea - A beginner just get's overwhelmed with too much info.

However, I can say one thing for sure. I'm trying to put together a rock solid installation that's stable to run Blender 3D. I need this to be a very, very stable system, with no if's and buts. At the same time, for now I'm using Windows 7 Pro x64, which I have no complaints about, but like many other people, it would be a nice refreshing change to try Linux. I think Linux is awesome, but the last thing I need is to be stuck with problems because I don't know enough about the os.

"Tada" - that's why I'm here, Can someone help me to see if the motherboard I mentioned is a good combination with Ubuntu? and what the best version would be? I'm not afraid to configure, but I need help!
 
Old 01-11-2014, 05:57 PM   #2
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Run up the LTS liveCD and see how it runs. If it works, the chipset is supported. Have a good look around, make sure your video is supported, that sort of thing.
UEFI you'll only really know if you actually install it - but a dual-boot should allow you to still get to Win7.
 
Old 01-11-2014, 06:26 PM   #3
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Hi: zoomba

Welcome to Linux Questions!

I'm not an expert but after 5 years of running Linux I have not meet a machine that I was not able to
install Linux except for an old 1995 HP that had a lot of proprietary hardware on it.

I have had success running Ubuntu 12.04 in the past.
I have read that there have been a few issue's with Ubuntu 13.10 but can't recall what those were at the moment.
https://help.ubuntu.com/
http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=2115630

I know a few folks that have laptops that are in a dual boot with Win's 7 and Linux and they have had success as well. Should you wish to persue that you would have to shrink your Win's 7 partition first before installing Linux.
http://www.ehow.com/how_8479766_dual...s-7-linux.html
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../gg309169.aspx


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Will that version of Ubuntu support the Asus Sabertooth Z87 motherboard correctly?
I'm not entirely sure because I am not familiar with the Sabertooth Z87 except for a 5 minute conversation with a tech that shared his information with me and his good experience as it was his mobo for his current desktop.
I could look up the motherboard and it's specifications and post it for you.
Would that be something you'd be intrested in?

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I found little tidbits of information, such as problems with UEFI or that Vt-d does not work and so on.
If the Sabertooth Z87 does have the new click BIOS and the UEFI "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface" does prevent you from installing Linux on your machine, in some cases disabling the secure boot generally works. I think there is more than one practice to get around that

I recently build a brand new desktop with the new click BIOS and the UEFI partition but I did not install Windows.

http://www.howtogeek.com/175641/how-...h-secure-boot/

After weeks of reading about UEFI I found that since each OS can maintain it's own files within the EFI System Partition w/o affecting the other multibooting using UEFI is a matter of launching a different UEFI application corresponding to the particular operating systems bootloader. (Grub for Linux) This limitation does not exist in the Linux kernel but depends on the bootloader used.

For the sake of Windows UEFI booting, the Linux bootloader should also be installed in UEFI-GPT mode if booting from the same disk. I'm not sure if thats the case with the Sabertooth Z87:-

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ne/035445.html
http://askubuntu.com/questions/91484...-from-efi-uefi

Hope that helps-
 
Old 01-11-2014, 06:28 PM   #4
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In regards to vt-d. I have the z67ud3h-b3 also didn't support vt-d but if you flash to uefi it does. Centos works fine with that, so i would imagine ubuntu will be fine as well. If you actually want to use vt-d make sure you have a non xxx-k model processor.

Vt-d on gigabyte boards have an issue with the on processor graphics card, that caused my system not booting if passing iommu parameters to the kernel but I was able to work around it but setting the iommu fglrx option to off.

Lts vs current? If just a desktop, either will be ok. But then aain, i have never intalled windows on this system. As mentioned above, the secure boot stuff might cause issues once windows got hands on it, but with that, you will have to experiment.

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Old 01-11-2014, 07:01 PM   #5
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No Vtd

I just found out that my processor does not have Vt-d. I7 4770k

As for UEFI. If I want to just boot Ubuntu by itself, I don't have to worry about it? I'm asking I mean!

I can't test my system yet, I'm building it now and my parts aren't here yet.

I do know Ubuntu has Nvidia drivers, so I'm ok there. I would like an installation I don't have to touch, since 12.4.03 is supported until 2017 - I think!

Either way, I'll look at or read anything you guys mention here.
 
Old 01-11-2014, 07:14 PM   #6
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It is a k model so only supports vt-x. You can still use virtualization though. You just cannot pass pci devices directly.

One more thing, if it is for steam games, lts will be fine.

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Old 01-11-2014, 07:16 PM   #7
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As for UEFI. If I want to just boot Ubuntu by itself, I don't have to worry about it? I'm asking I mean!
If you mean a Live Ubuntu DVD or USB yes it should boot for you.

Booting after you have the distro installed should go well on a new machine that you are building on a brand new bare metal mobo-
Unless your installing Windows--

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Old 01-11-2014, 07:22 PM   #8
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It is a k model so only supports vt-x. You can still use virtualization though. You just cannot pass pci devices directly.

One more thing, if it is for steam games, lts will be fine.

Would editing the kernel line allow for a pass to a pci device?
 
Old 01-11-2014, 07:40 PM   #9
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No, you need a processor that can do vt-d, so non k model. You will be able to pass partitions and usb without vt-d though. You can still use virtualization.
 
Old 01-11-2014, 07:45 PM   #10
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No, you need a processor that can do vt-d, so non k model. You will be able to pass partitions and usb without vt-d though. You can still use virtualization.
Thanks for the confirmation on that.
 
Old 01-11-2014, 07:54 PM   #11
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Unless I am mistaken these mobo's do support vt-d and has a BIOS option to enable vt-d-
But you did make it clear that a processor that can do vt-d is required.
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ASUS Sabertooth X79 (for SB-E CPUs only!!! - see here; IVB-E CPUs are currently not supported)

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme (for SB-E CPUs; for IVB-E CPUs, use BIOS release 4802 or newer, or beta BIOS here)

ASUS Rampage IV Formula (for SB-E CPUs only!!! - see here)

ASUS Rampage IV Gene (for SB-E CPUs only!!! - see here)

ASUS P9X79-E WS (for IVB-E use BIOS 1406 - see here)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1338063/v...e-motherboards

@zoomba
Congratulations on your new build!

@ericson007
Thanks again for sharing your wisdom:-

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Old 01-11-2014, 08:01 PM   #12
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Let us know how it performs once you are done!
 
Old 01-12-2014, 04:03 PM   #13
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It's also possible to stay with Ubuntu 12.04 but upgrade the kernel to a newer version. That could help with hardware compatibility issues.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
 
Old 01-14-2014, 10:22 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomba View Post
As for UEFI. If I want to just boot Ubuntu by itself, I don't have to worry about it? I'm asking I mean!
If you only want to run Ubuntu you do not need to worry about UEFI. If you want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows, you will need to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode if Windows was installed in UEFI mode. For more info, see this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
I dual boot Lubuntu and Slackware. I did not even need to worry about UEFI since Linux does not need to be installed in EUFI mode.
I am using a Asus M5A99X EVO motherboard.
 
  


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