kubuntu crash
my box has been crashing about every two months.
Does anybody have any idea, what could be wrong? Here's in more detail what happened at the last crash; the other crashes happened similarly: my box crashed when viewing Google in firefox under kde in kubuntu. I could still move the mouse around, but nothing else worked. no clicking, pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 or Ctrl-Alt-Del or Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace didn't work either. the keyboard LEDs wouldn't light up when Caps-Lock or Num-Lock were pressed either The mouse still looked like a hand (from hovering over a link) all the time. The interesting part is really, that the mouse still moved nicely. Thanks, Sam |
who says linux never crash?
i think certain linux is very screwed up, very worse, like hell! use pirated windows is much better. |
> who says linux never crash?
> i think certain linux is very screwed up, very worse, > like hell! > use pirated windows is much better. well thanks, this was very helpful... |
futurist,
a) Please don't saotage 0 reply threads by posting when you have nothing to contribute to answering the Q posed -- You lessen the OP's chances of getting a quick answer. b) Please don't post unsupported Linux bashing at all. c) If you must post anti-Linux sentiments, please find an appropriate forum. d) If you're so down on Linux, depart in peace. e) Comparing 1 crash every 2 months to "reboot daily whether it needs it or not" is ludicrous. Granted "reboot daily whether it needs it or not" is not quite literally true, & at least partially tongue-in-cheek, but there is more than a large grain of truth in the aphorism. f) Many of us are using GNU/Linux precisely to avoid the temptation or need to steal software. Many of us agree that if anyone deserves to have his product stolen, it is Bill Gate$; we just don't want to stoop to his level. If you haven't already, read The GNU Manifesto, especially "Why I Must Write GNU". g) BTW, in case you don't recognize it, that is sarcasm in the reply shoffsta posted while I was composing this. shoffsta, I hope someone has a constructive idea for you & that this potential sabotage, I hope unintentional, does not hurt your chances of getting an A. You have done an incredibly good job of describing an intermittent problem. One counter-Q: Since it's so rare, how much does this really matter, other than curiousity & a matter of principle? |
> Since it's so rare, how much does this really matter, other than curiousity & a matter of principle?
1. well, if I'm working at something and the box crashes, I do lose data, which gets very annoying even if it's only once every two months. 2. I run my box at home as an ssh server which I use when I'm on a computer on campus. So if the computer crashes while I'm on campus I am locked out of ssh and have no access to my files till I get back and hard-boot. This means I'm screwed if I have and assignment due that night. 3. a good OS shouldn't crash, even if it's "only" once every two months. -Sam |
All good reasons, hope my curiosity didn't imply not taking your problem as serious or important.
Some more Q's for you:[list=1][*]When was the last crash?[*]You mention data loss, do you remember what else was running during any of the crashes?[*]Has it ever crashed when unattended? Can we add "ssh link also dies" to that thoughtful list of symptoms?[*]Have you tried looking at any log files? Don't ask me which ones, I just know it's a right thing to do.[*]How much have you done to "provoke" a crash? -- i.e. duplicate the problem.[/list=1] I will be at our (HLUG) regular Wed. Linux Workshop tonight & will try to throw your problem out to the group. |
which desktop version are u using 3.4.0
it maybe worth while upgrading to KDE 3.4.2 ##KDE342 deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main add the above to the etc/apt/sources-list then update ... |
there is no such thing as a non crashable OS. all OS's crash just some more than others. you have to remember its a human programming that OS to run and humans make mistakes. and some of time its user error that causes an OS to crash. i know one lady that shouldnt even be near a keyboard she keeps deleting her win32 file cause she thinks she dont need it (hard headed woman). there will always be errros and always be os;s that crash now given once every 2 months is alot. iv had mine crash 3 times this morning already its not even noon yet. so to say a good OS shouldnt crash well good luck finding one that will "never" crash. oh and it might help if we knew what version of kubuntu 4.10,5.04,5.10???
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yes, I was using KDE 3.4.0 and I have only noticed crashes while working in KDE, although it might also happen otherwise, just not yet. I'm updating to 3.4.2 right now.
the last crash happened 09-18-2005. other than the usual processes (artsd, kdeinit, ...) I was running kaffeine, kopete, vim and konqueror. nothing was scheduled in cron (except maybe update slocate. I don't remember the exact time of the crash) I've never actually had this problem through ssh. I mentioned this because I had problems with this at the last power outage. I just assumed ssh wouldn't work if the box crashed this way again, but I don't know. what logfiles would I check? I'm using kubuntu hoary but I don't know exactly what version number (how do I find out), but I do run "apt-get dist-upgrade" every couple of days, so most of the software should be fairly up-to-date. -Sam |
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We're about to be in the middle of a hurricane here, will check logfile issue next week.
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the computer crashed again, and no,I couldn't connect to ssh or apache.
It happened right after I switched from KDE to console on Ctrl-Alt-F6. any ideas? |
Don`t forget, hardare can crash too :)
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My apologies, the hurricane is long gone, but I forgot to bookmark this thread & didn't remember to check on log files. Here's a suggestion:
Code:
su -c 'less -S~#15 /var/log/messages' Is this important enough to start an "Incident file" to record the relevant details while they're fresh in your memory? Have you tried to provoke a crash yet? |
less -S~#15 /var/log/messages
gives me a lot of messages, however, there were no messages at the exact time of the last crash. hm. and no I haven't been able to provoke a crash yet. what's an "Incident file"? how do I set one up? thanks, Sam |
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