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Old 10-03-2006, 06:19 PM   #1
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installing downloaded package


I'm new to Ubuntu been using Fedora. I downloaded Opera but when I opened the download the archive manager would not install. the file was opera... .deb. Also when I did the install I was not asked for a root password just the password for my username, did I mess something?

Can I access the files in my fedora /home/user dir ie, media, word, spreadsheet, etc?

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Old 10-03-2006, 06:57 PM   #2
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Ubuntu by default makes you use sudo rather than become root.

If you want to set a root password you can do sudo passwd root then enter the new password.

That will let you do su and go to root.
 
Old 10-03-2006, 09:25 PM   #3
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I've seen some issues myself

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Originally Posted by paul85
I'm new to Ubuntu been using Fedora. I downloaded Opera but when I opened the download the archive manager would not install. the file was opera... .deb. Also when I did the install I was not asked for a root password just the password for my username, did I mess something?

Can I access the files in my fedora /home/user dir ie, media, word, spreadsheet, etc?

thanks
I have heard reports that some of the early .deb packages for Opera 9.0 were not built correctly for certain systems. I am on a Ubuntu system right now myself.

I will go out to Opera and see if I can get their Deb and try it out. Just the other night, I was on my SimplyMEPIS 6.0 distro, which, as of 6.0, happens to use both Ubuntu based packages and the Ubuntu modified Debian kernel. I seem to recall having problems installing and getting Opera 9.02 working on that system, but I believe I tried something different and got it to work.

Let me experiment and I will write back; it's probably fixed by now, if there even WAS a problem, but I'll let you know.
 
Old 10-03-2006, 09:25 PM   #4
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I just reformatted my buntu box and installed opera an hour before he asked.

It works.
 
Old 10-03-2006, 09:35 PM   #5
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Confirmed it works also

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I just reformatted my buntu box and installed opera an hour before he asked.

It works.
I just installed it using Ubuntu. Whether it was working before or not, it works now.

Here is some information from my particular installation:

Version
9.02
Build
434
Platform
Linux
System
i686, 2.6.15-23-386
Qt library
3.3.6
Java
Java Runtime Environment installed
Browser identification

Opera/9.02 (X11; Linux i686; U; en)
Paths
Preferences
/home/masinick/.opera/opera6.ini
Saved session
/home/masinick/.opera/opera.win
Bookmarks
/home/masinick/.opera/opera6.adr
Opera directory
/home/masinick/.opera/
Cache
/home/masinick/.opera/cache4/
Mail directory
/home/masinick/.opera/mail/
Plug-in path
/usr/lib/opera/plugins
User CSS directory
/home/masinick/.opera/styles/user/
 
Old 10-04-2006, 08:32 PM   #6
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I downloaded opera again and saved it to my desktop. However when I attempt to install the package I get the following msg"

Could not open "opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"

Archive type not supported.

Does it matter that I'm running 5.1 x86_64?


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Old 10-04-2006, 08:44 PM   #7
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Go to a console and run dpkg -i on it.
That should work.
 
Old 10-05-2006, 11:50 AM   #8
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I've tried this twice with no success, any suggestions?


paul@ubuntu:~$ ls Desktop
opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb

paul@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i /Desktop/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing /Desktop/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
/Desktop/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
 
Old 10-05-2006, 11:58 AM   #9
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Does it matter that I'm running 5.1 x86_64?
Of course it matters. You can't install an i386 app on a 64-bit OS.
 
Old 10-05-2006, 12:09 PM   #10
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Then expalin why I was able to run 32 bit apps under a 64 bit os Fc3_64 I was able to run both 64 and 32 bits apps including opera.
 
Old 10-05-2006, 12:50 PM   #11
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Because Fedora builds you a kind of "chroot" for executing 32 bit apps. I think Suse may do that as well. On Debian based systems, you have to build your own, and it ain't particularly easy. Isn't there a 64-bit version of Opera? Search Ubuntu's 64-bit help pages. They seem to have a method.

(Actually, what Fedora does isn't exactly a chroot, but it accomplishes the same thing. They actually somehow integrate both architectures. Debian considered it and decided it wasn't worth the effort for a temporary problem.)

Last edited by rickh; 10-05-2006 at 12:54 PM.
 
Old 10-05-2006, 01:12 PM   #12
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No at the current time ther is no 64 bit version of Opera. But they did list the following proceedure for Ubuntu:

Procedure

1. apt-get install dchroot debootstrap
2. Choose a location that has ample free space (e.g., /usr/chroot32), and invoke mkdir /usr/chroot32.
3. Add that location, $CHROOT32, to /etc/dchroot.conf in the form of $UBUNTURELEASENAME $CHROOT32, where $UBUNTURELEASENAME = {'breezy', 'hoary', 'warty'}.
4. Invoke debootstrap --arch i386 $UBUNTURELEASENAME $CHROOT32.
5. Add the following lines to $CHROOT32/etc/apt/sources.list:
1. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $UBUNTURELEASENAME main restricted universe multiverse
2. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $UBUNTURELEASENAME-security main restricted universe multiverse
3. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $UBUNTURELEASENAME-backports main restricted universe multiverse
6. Invoke chroot $CHROOT32 and dpkg-reconfigure locales.
7. Invoke apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.
8. Outside of the chroot environment, edit the main system's /etc/fstab, adding the following lines:
1. /home $CHROOT32/home none bind 0 0
2. /tmp $CHROOT32/tmp none bind 0 0
3. /dev $CHROOT32/dev none bind 0 0
4. /proc $CHROOT32/proc none bind 0 0
5. /etc/passwd $CHROOT32/etc/passwd none bind 0 0
6. /etc/shadow $CHROOT32/etc/shadow none bind 0 0
7. /etc/group $CHROOT32/etc/group none bind 0 0
8. /etc/sudoers $CHROOT32/etc/sudoers none bind 0 0
9. /etc/hosts $CHROOT32/etc/hosts none bind 0 0
10. /etc/resolv.conf $CHROOT32/etc/resolv.conf none bind 0 0
11. /etc/nsswitch.conf $CHROOT32/etc/nsswitch.conf none bind 0 0
12. For all entries in /media, perform a binding step similar to the ones above.
9. Invoke mount -a.
10. Create a script, $SCRIPT, that contains the following lines:
1. #!/bin/sh
2. /usr/bin/dchroot -d "`echo $0 | sed 's|^.*/||'` $*"
11. Invoke chmod +x $SCRIPT.

I'll try this and let you know. Haven't done something like this before. If it doesn't work I guess 'll install 5.10-32
 
Old 10-05-2006, 04:14 PM   #13
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I've gotten as far as step4, when I proceeded on (5) $chroot32/etc/apt there was no sources.list, should it have been created in the prior step?
 
  


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