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Old 08-24-2010, 02:34 PM   #1
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Install fails to recognize PATA hard drives


Hello,
I have an Intel MB (855GME with 6300ESB) that I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 9.0.4 on. It will install to a SATA drive but for various reasons I need to install on IDE (PATA on 6300ESB). The install fails to find any ide drive (I know the drive/interface works because I can install XP on this same ide drive). If I boot Ubuntu from the DVD (on USB) and open a terminal window and parse the dmesg output I see the message "pata_acpi :xxx device not available because of BAR 2 collisions". I'm trying to determine if there's some workaround for this. I've tried various kernel parameters and no joy. Any ideas??

I've tried OpenSUSE 11.1 with similar results.

Thx, brent
 
Old 08-25-2010, 08:50 AM   #2
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Is http://www.pubbs.net/200912/debian/3...l-drivers.html relevant?
 
Old 08-25-2010, 09:57 AM   #3
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I followed that link and the main suggestion seemed to be to load the 'piix' driver. I tried this with OpenSUSE (I couldn't figure out how to do this with Ubuntu during the install) and it doesn't change anything (actually, the OpenSUSE install loads many different 'generic' ATA style drivers by default during the install process). Is there a way to manually load alternative drivers with the Ubuntu install?
 
Old 08-25-2010, 09:08 PM   #4
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Is there a way to manually load alternative drivers with the Ubuntu install?
If you press F6 at the Ubuntu live CD boot up screen you will see a list of boot options. If you then hit the Esc key, you will be presented with a boot command that you can use to add any options you need. See this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bo...Boot%20Options
 
Old 08-25-2010, 09:34 PM   #5
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that is odd
i still have Arch on a pata ide computer
and had Fedora 4 through 11 on it also

so this IS a multi disk computer and a multi OS as well

not just ubuntu on a computer with ONE disk

the old ide disk might be listed as hd?? and NOT the current sd??

can you mount the disk drive ?
mount /dev/hd??
-- and NOT
mount /dev/sd??
 
Old 08-26-2010, 08:39 AM   #6
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Yes, I've tried F6 and disabling acpi, apic, etc (all the options available from the F6 menu). Thanks for the tip on the use of the ESC key too. I tried that, specifying a few more options such as 'irqpoll' and some others that seemed logical (acpi/irq related) and no luck there either.

With OpenSUSE I can specify kernel options by typing directly so I've tried others such as all_generic_ide and pci=nomsi (as I've seen other people have success with these options on other forums, with similar issue, etc).

To answer the second post, I have tried this with multiple disks (ide0 and ide2 both on PATA) or with only one or the other physically connected to the PATA controller. I've also got other physical ide disks that have XP and RHEL4 on them and they will both boot on ide0. The RHEL4 is obviously very old (but it utilizes the ata_piix driver for this ide interface) and I've had other older Linux distros running on this same hardware in the past. I also have multiple SBC's like this one (identical, since we are an OEM building these boards) so I've tested mutliple SBC's and I know the hardware is ok.

This is not a multiple OS on same disk install scenario. I'm only trying to install one image on the disk. Also, during all my attempts to install to PATA disk the SATA interface is physically disconnected.

> can you mount the disk drive ?
> mount /dev/hd??
> -- and NOT
> mount /dev/sd??

After booting the Ubuntu Live CD and going to terminal window I tried 'mount /dev/hda /mnt/myhd' and it comes back with 'special device /dev/hda does not exist'. The same for sda (when no drive is plugged into the SATA interface of course).

** I tried 'sudo fdisk -l' from the Live CD terminal window and it comes back with nothing. I think this indicates the kernel cannot see any drives???

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Old 08-26-2010, 03:42 PM   #7
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I tried 'sudo fdisk -l' from the Live CD terminal window and it comes back with nothing. I think this indicates the kernel cannot see any drives???
Are you still trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 as it says in your first post? If so, then try installing Ubuntu 10.04. It is possible that the newer kernel on 10.04 will correctly see the IDE drives.

I would have suggested to boot with: all_generic_ide. I would have thought that all_generic_ide would have done the trick. I'm not sure what else you could try.

Last edited by tommcd; 08-26-2010 at 03:45 PM.
 
Old 08-26-2010, 04:21 PM   #8
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also i am not aware of any "live cd's /dvd's that have "suso" set up in them
most of the time with a rescue disk you nood to first run
Code:
chroot /mnt/sysimage
and you are already running AS ROOT
the command 'fdisk -l" should give you the partitions of the drive/s .

you might want toi use one of these two "live cd's"
gparted and / or qt-parted

and see ti the parted partition editor sees them

Last edited by John VV; 08-26-2010 at 04:27 PM.
 
  


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