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Old 11-28-2006, 06:55 PM   #16
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fotoguy...it appears to be OK...see below.
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Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]"
Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:09 PM   #17
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FWIW...I found thisd in /etc/rc5.d/S13kdm. It seems to imply that kdm isn't running, but when I check processes, it says kdm loads at boot and is running.

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# To start kdm even if it is not the default display manager, change
# HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER to "false."
HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER=true
DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE=/etc/X11/default-display-manager
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Is that of any hlep at all? I dfon't know what I'm doing with this, just chasing straws.

Thanks!
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:48 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Optiker
fotoguy...it appears to be OK...see below.
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Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]"
Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
---------------------------------

Optiker

Ok it looks to be setup right, I wonder if the modes maybe to high. Could the monitor not support the 1280x1024 resolution? I have had that before when a card could handle the higher resolution than the monitor could. And xserver will always use the first resolution in the modes line. Maybe remove the "1280x1024" and see if that works better. Also xserver should be logging all this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
Old 11-29-2006, 09:50 AM   #19
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Ok it looks to be setup right, I wonder if the modes maybe to high. Could the monitor not support the 1280x1024 resolution? I have had that before when a card could handle the higher resolution than the monitor could. And xserver will always use the first resolution in the modes line. Maybe remove the "1280x1024" and see if that works better. Also xserver should be logging all this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
I can try that, but in fact, once into kde, I've tried several modes and it seems to work fine. I guess I don't understand how that would affect its not booting into X.

Wouldn't any behaviour logged in Xorg.0.log come after X has launched instead of earlier in the boot process which goes into CL mode?

Thanks!
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:56 AM   #20
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The xorg log will show any errors that would cause it to not start. Post the output of this log as well as your full xorg.conf
 
Old 11-29-2006, 12:05 PM   #21
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The xorg log will show any errors that would cause it to not start. Post the output of this log as well as your full xorg.conf
OK - will do tonight when I get home from work.

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Old 11-30-2006, 09:56 AM   #22
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First off...apologies in advance for the coming rant! It is out of frustration, not intended as a personal attack on anybody. In spite of the rant, thanks all for your help.

Last night I gave up! I just spent a couple of weeks getting my dual-booted Win2K installation back after a Microsoft update broke it, and I broke the Linux installation in the process of trying to use it to fix the Windows installation. That took two threads totalling close to 200 posts on my favorite and most effective support newsgroup.

To my great disappointment, I've been looking for help on this Linux problem on 5 or 6 newsgroups and forums, and haven't had more than a small handful of responses, none of which have begun to make progress towards solving the problem. Perhaps the worst is the Automatix forum - use of Automatix marked the start of the problem - whose moderator used to so vigorously defend Automatix on another Linux forum as stable and not deserving of the criticism it was receiving.

I guess I'm tired of fixing and need to get back to using my computers. Therein lies the difference between those for whom Linux is a playground and those for whom it is a tool.

Last night, not having made any progress towards undoing the unwanted changes made by Automatix, I attempted to simply reinstall Kubuntu Dapper to get back to where I started - intending to not use Automatix, but be satisfied with a plain-Jane Kubuntu installation. Unfortunately, even that didn't work. The Kubuntu installation stalled at 70% - something I've seen somneplace in another post, but can't remember where. When it wouldn't budge, and I couldn't seem to do anything to recover, I powered down. That broke Grub - error 15 - and I had to go back to my Win2K install disk's recovery console to repair the MBR to be able to boot into anything (Win2K) - learning to do that was one good result of the Win2K fiasco.

At this point, I have a bootable and working Win2K, but no Linux. Whether or not I will again try to install Kubuntu is in question. It depends on how long it takes the frustration to be forgotten. I just had a tooth extracted, and that's helping take the edge off my Linux frustration by distracting me - though I'm not sure which is less desireable!

Yesterday I read a highly arrogant blog entry in which the writer told about it being time to dump Linux because it was now too easy and thus boring compared to when it was exciting 10 years ago. Of course, he wasn't writing to Linux noobs, but preaching to his own choir, so perhaps it's not fair for me to criticize. He implied that any who questioned Linux being ready for the desktop were stupid because it was ready long ago. My experience just reaffirms that folks like him have a very short-sighted view of where the real desktop market is, and that it appears that Linux is still not ready to challenge Windows or Mac in that market - perhaps for the experienced, but not for the general public who want to use, not tinker.

I'm sure this post is inviting flames, but now and then a rant isn't all bad.

Optiker
 
  


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