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Old 05-08-2008, 03:45 AM   #1
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Failed Ubuntu 7.10 Installation on HP Compaq 6715b Notebook


Hi guys,

Last night i finally finished backing up my Windows files on DVD discs and i was all smiles as i added Ubuntu stickers to my HP notebook. I inserted the Ubuntu disc and rebooted, and this is what ensured...

The Ubuntu disc loads and i select the first option to install Ubuntu, and it then starts booting. It goes well until a screen where its starting daemons, then it just stops when loading boot scripts and the disc goes quiet. I left it for over an hour and tried again, but same thing happens. What puzzles me is that i do have that Ubuntu running on that same notebook in VMWare. Only, i wanted to install it as my main OS and reformat the entire drive.

Please advise; my specs are:

HP Compaq 6715b Notebook

Display = ATI Radeon X1250 Series
Chip Type = ATI Radeon X1200 Series (0x791F)
DAC Type = Internal DAC (400MHz)
Memory Size = 128MB
Adapter String = ATI Radeon X1250
Bios Information = BK-ATI VER010.038.000.004.023883

CPU = AMD Turion 64x2 1.9GHz TL-58
RAM = 2 Gigs
Hard Disk Drive = Fujitsu MHW2120BH
DVD Drive = TSST corp CD/DVDW TS-L632D

I am not afraid to muck with it until it works, i just need to be shown the right way to do it...

Regards,

Lloyd Dube
 
Old 05-08-2008, 04:19 AM   #2
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I can't debug this from here (you're providing helpful information, but this'd need some research). I just want to mention that it's no wonder it runs in VMware - the virtual machine provides a known set of virtual hardware that's well supported.

From what I see, you're running into some problem with hardware - did you try the 64bit version of the Ubuntu kernel? I suspect an X problem (they're common with newer hardware, I've got some of my own on a fairly new box), but it's very hard to tell without any more information; you could try to boot with messages enabled to see what actually hangs where and when.

M.
 
Old 05-08-2008, 04:49 AM   #3
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@@MoonMind - thanks for the response. And sorry abt the double-post, i was trying to get my problem more visible :-|

How would i enable messages when booting? Btw, i also tried booting in safe graphics mode, with the same results.

Regards,

Lloyd Dube.
 
Old 05-08-2008, 02:51 PM   #4
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About safe graphics mode: good thinking - but this means that I'm probably on the wrong track. We need to have a look at those boot messages!

Booting with messages: It's easy, but not obvious: Hit F6 and change "splash --" at the end of the line that appears at the bottom of the screen to "nosplash" (it also works with those dashes in place).

BTW. The splash screen can take an awful lot of time to finally change (i.e. boot goes ahead) - this is most certainly due to background hardware checking that's really slow at first (don't ask me why). I just experienced this when checking the LiveCD. The problem's gone after installation, though.

What we need to find out is the exact point at which the system hangs.

And about double-posting: Most of us tried that. It doesn't help - it diverts attention instead of focussing it. In the end, you may end up with two (or even more) unsatisfying rump threads. Try to describe your problem as clearly as possible, add available information from messages on screen or gained from tools (and if at all possilbe, read available documentation before posting - it helps greatly with clarifying things!).

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Old 05-09-2008, 04:22 AM   #5
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Hi guys,

Here's an update on my situation: last night i wiped out my disk with KillDisk (i dont want to dual boot) and rebooted from the Ubuntu 7.10 i386 Disk. Here are the messages i got; please bear with me if they are long...

==================================================================

Loading Linux kernel [0k]
Setting preliminary keymap [OK]
Preparing restricted drivers [OK]

(...and so on, all other messages returning [OK] status)

THEN:

Loading hardware drivers - Error receiving uevent message: nospace or buffer available - could not initialize

var/lib/acpi-support/system-Product-Name; No such file or directory

var/lib/acpi-support/System-Manufacturer; No such file or directory

var/lib/acpi-support/System-version; No such file or directory

var/lib/acpi-support/bios-version; No such file or directory

* Saving VESA State [OK]
* Loading ACPI Modules [OK]
* Starting ACPI Services [OK]
* Starting System Log Daemon [OK]
* Starting kernel log daemon [OK]
* Starting system message bus dbus [OK]
* Starting Network Connection Manager Network Manager [OK]
* Starting Network Events DispatcherNetwork Manager Dispatcher[OK]
* Starting system tools backends system-tools-backends [OK]
* Starting hardware abstraction layer hald [OK]
* Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd [OK]
* Starting powernowd... [OK]
* Starting ConsoleKit daemon console-kit-daemon [OK]
* Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon avahi-daemon [OK]
* Starting DHCP D-Bus daemon dhcdbd [OK]
* Starting Bluetooth Services [OK]
* Starting Gnome Display Manager [OK]
* Starting deferred execution scheduler atd [OK]
* Starting periodic command scheduler crond [OK]
* Checking battery state [OK]
* Running local boot scripts [OK]

(and the prompt flashes here for ever)

==================================================================

I have no idea what this is about - surely if VMware could provide an acceptable vm for Ubuntu on this notebook, then the actual hardware would suffice?

Please advise,

Thanks,

Lloyd Dube
 
Old 05-09-2008, 08:41 AM   #6
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@@MoonMind - how do i get to the boot: prompt when the Live Disk runs? I found out how i can pass Live Acpi=NOACPI at that prompt but i just need to get there!

Thanks

Lloyd Dube
 
Old 05-09-2008, 05:11 PM   #7
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On the boot screen, hit F6, then enter "acpi=NOACPI" at the end of the line (but check for other instances of "acpi=[..]" first).
 
  


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