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Old 12-16-2006, 01:23 PM   #1
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Can't Get 1400x1050 Resolution


Ok this xorg problem has driven me up the wall. I have frantically read and done everything I know and I am still at a loss. I can run 1400x1050 @76hz fine in wondows. Yet in kubuntu 6.06 I can't get anything above 1280x1024 no matter what I put in xorg.conf.

Here is my xorg.conf file:
Code:
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
	# path to defoma fonts
	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"bitmap"
#	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"dri"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"type1"
#	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"kbd"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
	Option		"Protocol"		"ExplorerPS/2"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "stylus"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/wacom"          # Change to 
                                                      # /dev/input/event
                                                      # for USB
  Option        "Type"          "stylus"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "eraser"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/wacom"          # Change to 
                                                      # /dev/input/event
                                                      # for USB
  Option        "Type"          "eraser"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "cursor"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/wacom"          # Change to 
                                                      # /dev/input/event
                                                      # for USB
  Option        "Type"          "cursor"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R300 ND [Radeon 9700 Pro]"
	Driver		"fglrx"
	BusID		"PCI:2:0:0"
	Option	    	"VideoOverlay" "on"
	Option	    	"OpenGLOverlay" "off"EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"G75f"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	30-86
	VertRefresh	50-180
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R300 ND [Radeon 9700 Pro]"
	Monitor		"G75f"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		"Default Screen"
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
	InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
	InputDevice     "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
	InputDevice     "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode	0666
EndSection

That is just one of many many conf files I have tried/edited. This one is from
Code:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
and I also commented out the monitor modules just to see if it would only listen to my commands but still nothing

I have also tried
Code:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
 
Old 12-16-2006, 01:26 PM   #2
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from the log:
Code:
II) fglrx(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) fglrx(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 720x400@88Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 640x480@67Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 640x480@72Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 800x600@56Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 800x600@60Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 800x600@72Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 832x624@75Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 1024x768@87Hz (interlaced)
(II) fglrx(0): 1024x768@60Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 1024x768@70Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
(II) fglrx(0): 1152x870@75Hz
Is it possible that this "vesa" is causing all the problems?]

Thanks for any infos
 
Old 12-16-2006, 02:01 PM   #3
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I had to use my xorg.conf from a Mepis install to get Xubuntu to see my 1440x990 screen resolution. I actually had to install Mepis 6 over my Xubuntu install, grab the file, then reinstall Xubuntu! For some reason, the *Ubuntu distros have a problem with getting the higher resolutions right. The best I can suggest is to install Mepis 6 and see if it works. If it does, copy the xorg.conf file for use on your Kubuntu install.
 
Old 12-16-2006, 02:55 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesman2333
I had to use my xorg.conf from a Mepis install to get Xubuntu to see my 1440x990 screen resolution. I actually had to install Mepis 6 over my Xubuntu install, grab the file, then reinstall Xubuntu! For some reason, the *Ubuntu distros have a problem with getting the higher resolutions right. The best I can suggest is to install Mepis 6 and see if it works. If it does, copy the xorg.conf file for use on your Kubuntu install.
what all was different in the mepis conf?
 
Old 12-16-2006, 04:36 PM   #5
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All kinds of stuff. There was a bunch of stuff added concerning the monitor, above the normal screen resolution stuff. My guess is that Mepis has modules that *Ubuntu doesn't have. Mepis is known for superior hardware detection, it must be true. Too bad the drawbacks outweigh the benefits of using Mepis.
 
Old 12-16-2006, 05:17 PM   #6
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Regardless of what resolution your monitor supports or that you place in xorg.conf, the video driver will only use resolutions its programmed to use. vesa is name of the most basic driver that supports all screens and it only has support for lower resolutions. I'm an Nvida user so I don't know the capabilities of the ati drivers. Linux comes with an open source ati driver that is only 2D and supports limited resolutions compared to the proprietary 3D driver. When you run command line xserver commands to configure xorg.conf they will always change the driver to a 2D open source version. Assuming you one had the proprietary driver you will then need to hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver it calls out back to the 3D one. For Nvidia, the open source driver is "nv" and the 3D diver is "nvidia". Off hand I don't know the names of the ati drivers. You need to look at the current xorg.conf to see whats being used. If your unsure, try reinstalling the ati 3D driver.
 
Old 12-16-2006, 05:27 PM   #7
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That may be true, but the fact remains that when I used the xorg.conf file generated by Mepis on the Xubuntu install, everything worked fine.
 
Old 12-16-2006, 09:32 PM   #8
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Is this problem mainly an ati one and not nvidia? I have a nvidia 6800 in the mail right now. I tried again today for another 2 hours to get the res right with this ati card and still nothing. I almost got it using modeline but it kept making the screen off center. Hmm, I don't know. I am really loosing motivation to get everything working with ati since I have the 6800 on the way
 
Old 12-17-2006, 03:10 AM   #9
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nVidia seems to do better in Linux than ATI. I'm sure the 6800 will work out of the box for 2D, but you will need to get the module from the repos after you pop the card in or just do a fresh install of Kubuntu for 3D.
 
Old 12-17-2006, 06:47 AM   #10
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Have you also tried to change the xorg.conf manually?
Don't know if this will help, but when I'm on WinXP and I open the built in configure-menu on the monitor I can see the HorizSync and VertRefresh values. I just changed it according to that information and I got the resolution that I wanted (IMC 1024x768). Can your monitor do that?
 
Old 12-17-2006, 05:02 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weoyondo
Have you also tried to change the xorg.conf manually?
Don't know if this will help, but when I'm on WinXP and I open the built in configure-menu on the monitor I can see the HorizSync and VertRefresh values. I just changed it according to that information and I got the resolution that I wanted (IMC 1024x768). Can your monitor do that?
Yea I have the info from the monitor's "view menu" and I got the specs from viewsonic. I spent another couple of hours today trying to get everything working and got nowhere but now I have this problem:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255719


Code:
user@user-desktop:~$ displayconfig
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
  Major opcode:  148
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
  Major opcode:  148
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1699, in ?
    displayapp = DisplayApp()
  File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 443, in __init__
    self.xsetup = XSetup(self.xconfigpath)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/displayconfigabstraction.py", line 73, in __init__
    self.xorg_config = xorgconfig.readConfig(xorg_config_filename)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/xorgconfig.py", line 657, in readConfig
    raise ParseException,"Unknown line type '%s' on line %i" % (first,line)
xorgconfig.ParseException: Unknown line type 'section' on line 97
user@user-desktop:~$
 
Old 12-17-2006, 05:58 PM   #12
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I've had very good luck with with FX5200. I'm however an Ubuntu Gnome user and don't have displayconfig which is a KDE tool. At this point there's little I can add other than Nvidia does have a better reputation than ATI which I can personally confirm.
 
Old 12-17-2006, 07:46 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fragos
I've had very good luck with with FX5200. I'm however an Ubuntu Gnome user and don't have displayconfig which is a KDE tool. At this point there's little I can add other than Nvidia does have a better reputation than ATI which I can personally confirm.

Good to hear
 
Old 12-17-2006, 11:08 PM   #14
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Well I managed to get into 1400x1050 using modelines. I can't seem to find the right one though. The screen has got waves in it that I can't adjust out. Tomorrow I am going to boot into a windows partition and install powerstrip. I heard it can print out modelines. So in theory I should be able to get the res in windows like usual adn then us powerstrip to snag the exact modeline that I need
 
Old 12-18-2006, 10:18 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by esaym
Well I managed to get into 1400x1050 using modelines. I can't seem to find the right one though. The screen has got waves in it that I can't adjust out. Tomorrow I am going to boot into a windows partition and install powerstrip. I heard it can print out modelines. So in theory I should be able to get the res in windows like usual adn then us powerstrip to snag the exact modeline that I need

Ok using the correct modeline from windows worked. So I guess in summary, use the correct modelines!
 
  


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