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Ubuntu is making inroads into the enterprise segments in various markets. Recently The Supreme Court of India ordered all courts across India to switch to Ubuntu. Prior to this move the courts across India were using the Red Hat Enterprise Linux, which is mainly targeted at servers. More than 17,000 courts around India will now be switching over to Ubuntu from RHEL.

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Thats lame.

Moving from a public company (RHEL) to a private company based in a tax haven (ubuntu/canonical), that is something I cannot understand, or support.

Not that RHEL has 'secrect sauce' (or 'secret souce', the wording is either a pun or more likely a way to dirty REHLs name without actually legally saying what they are impling).

If we all ran on the sauce/source that canonical provides, linux in general would be years behind where we are thanks to RHEL. How much does canonical contribute back to linux? Sod-all compared to RHEL.

Slowly but surely Ubuntu's original mantra is being pushed aside. A company who once said there will be no enterprise edition suddenly has one, a company who started preaching, and still does preach, open source is actually going in the opposite direction of its stated philosophy (both past and present).

I remember back in the 9.10 development days a group of extremely dedicated users (just me actually lol) at Ubuntu Forums suggested a "business edition" and we were howled down and told it would never happen because everyone wants games etc and if you didn't want games or wanted more business software them all you had to do was apt-get remove and apt-get install. Nearly 3 years later it seems Mr Shuttleworth is starting to have "original ideas". Don't go thinking it wasn't suggested earlier either I just can't find the older threads.

Well done Mark.

You didnt really believe the hype, did you? Ubuntu was always a canonical vehicle. Canonical has always been about profit.

As for the suggestion of a business edition, I'm not that suprised. IIRC at least one other person at the foums thought it was a good idea, I'm sure I've seen someone that wasnt you suggesting the same thing. I'm not even going to try to find it, the ubuntu forums tend to bury/lock inconvenient posts, threads and ideas.

The whole ubutnu ecosystem is broken IMO. Shuttleworth goes on about meritocracy, that IMO its used a way to ignore the 'community' and deflection of potentially good ideas.

I believed it for about 6 months. The only things that kept me with Ubuntu was the fact I was so green and Ubuntu was very easy to learn, was being the operative word. How many businesses after 8 years of running at a loss are still worth keeping? Kubuntu has been dropped after 7 years. Why is Canonical which has never made a profit yet still operating? Mark has money, good on him I acknowledge self made people, but I doubt Canonical would still be able to operate if it wasn't for the fact he planted it on the Isle of Man.

Yes there were a group of us who suggested it back when 8.04 was being developed, BUT, as you have said, inconvenient topics/threads cannot be found and I can't find them in my own thread list . To be fair they did say they were going to "archive" old material.

I agree totally, and this will probably get me in alot of strife but I found nothing but brick walls in various Ubuntu "teams". If you don't tow the line you don't get a chance to be involved and a heap of political correctness crap gets thrown at you. There is nothing about "team work".

You got me ranting, lol.

I dont think that the isle of Man location would have much impact on a business running at a loss. IF its running at a loss..private company, based in a tax haven...try finding the financial statements for companies in that situaton.

So you can see I'm not convinced that canonical is running at a loss. If they are, its because it suits Shuttleworth for it to do so (canoncial keeps its 'underdog' status, it gets more sympathy from end users and other distros). There were reports from several years ago that 'canonical is close to breakign even', and the company has expanded since then.

They have 'archived' old threads, but the locking/jailing of inconvenient posts, threads and ideas moves them out of public view totally (you can still view the 'archived' threads). AFAIK only admins/mods/etc from the ubutnu forums can see the jailed posts/threads.

Of course. The 'teams' take orders/direction from the 'team leaders', the team leaders take orders/direction from the forum council, the forum council takes orders/direction from canonical...and canonical takes orders/direction from Mr. Shuttleworth. Its a hierachical system.

The teams largely exist to implement the wishes of those above it. The secondary purpose of the teams is so that if any (unforseen) ideas pop up, they can be managed by the team, team leader, forum council and canonical.

Its actually quite a cunning and machiavellian system.

That was my point, I realise I wasn't very eloquent when I was making it If it wasn;t for the location it would have alot more scrutiny, government watchdogs, public watchdogs etc.