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Old 03-09-2016, 06:40 PM   #1
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LXer: Mozilla Firefox 45 Removes Tab Groups, Provides Security Updates


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Mozilla provides 21 security advisories for its Firefox 45 browser. New features in the browser include improvements to the Firefox Hello communication tool.

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Old 03-09-2016, 08:46 PM   #2
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I have to say, who cares? When are they going to stop doing these useless "improvements" and FIX THE PERFORMANCE ISSUES?? In Chrome I can have 10 tabs open with no issues, I exceed 4 in Firefox and performance becomes abysmal. I have a site I frequent that BY ITSELF brings Firefox to it's knees, but Chrome (and even Edge and IE) haven't a single issue with it. Why are they taking sooooooooooooooo long to implement PROPER multithreading. It's getting farcical at this point. I really want to like Firefox, but the absolute REFUSAL of the dev team to prioritize keeping the performance in the same ballpark as Chrome is simply making it impossible. Dev's, focus on getting the browser to be relevant again in anything slightly resembling performance, than worry with that stupid hello communication tool, or other useless add-ons that you can't use because the browser itself is so slow.
 
Old 03-10-2016, 02:07 PM   #3
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I have to say, who cares? When are they going to stop doing these useless "improvements" and FIX THE PERFORMANCE ISSUES?? In Chrome I can have 10 tabs open with no issues, I exceed 4 in Firefox and performance becomes abysmal. I have a site I frequent that BY ITSELF brings Firefox to it's knees, but Chrome (and even Edge and IE) haven't a single issue with it. Why are they taking sooooooooooooooo long to implement PROPER multithreading. It's getting farcical at this point. I really want to like Firefox, but the absolute REFUSAL of the dev team to prioritize keeping the performance in the same ballpark as Chrome is simply making it impossible. Dev's, focus on getting the browser to be relevant again in anything slightly resembling performance, than worry with that stupid hello communication tool, or other useless add-ons that you can't use because the browser itself is so slow.
It sounds like something is very broken. I have two machines with Debian's iceweasel/firefox thing and regularly have 50 tabs open. I probably have 30-40 open right now as I write this, and it's as fast as typing anywhere else.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 07:47 AM   #4
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I use Firefox with often a lot of tabs (14 right now, but often twice or thrice this many), and in my experience it's more performing than Chromium (I don't know about Chrome, though, which I won't install).
It crashes quite often while playing Youtube videos, though, which is annoying as #*%&.

Off topic: Timothy, it's "its knees", not "it's". Please.

[Edit: not Chrome -> I don't know about Chrome]

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Old 03-11-2016, 09:07 AM   #5
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I stopped using Firefox so long ago I don't remember why. When version 45 was release a couple of days ago I tried it, for some reason, and liked it.
It is the best version of FIrefox I've seen in recent years and, so far, I've not had a single problem. It is such an improvement over what I remember since they started making it look like chrome, I switched to Firefox-45 from SeaMonkey, which hasn't been upgraded in 4 months.
OTOH, I rarely open more than 3 or 4 tabs and, honestly, I would be interested to know what purpose is served by having 30+ tabs open at any one time? Just curious. Innocent question.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 11:15 AM   #6
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I'm switching back to firefox when they get Servo ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erfnCaeLxSI
 
Old 03-11-2016, 12:02 PM   #7
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I stopped using Firefox so long ago I don't remember why. When version 45 was release a couple of days ago I tried it, for some reason, and liked it.
It is the best version of FIrefox I've seen in recent years and, so far, I've not had a single problem. It is such an improvement over what I remember since they started making it look like chrome, I switched to Firefox-45 from SeaMonkey, which hasn't been upgraded in 4 months.
OTOH, I rarely open more than 3 or 4 tabs and, honestly, I would be interested to know what purpose is served by having 30+ tabs open at any one time? Just curious. Innocent question.
I do it such as when I'm going through all the unread threads here, anything that looks like I might be interested in reading, I open in a background tab. So can very easily have 10-12 tabs open JUST for this site. I do the same on multiple other forums, so if I'm looking at my 2 major linux forums, and my 2 major paintball forums, quite easy for me to approach 30 tabs open at once.

Also when shopping. I'll open everything I'm considering in a separate tab, and then go through the tabs comparing them to decide, closing a tab when I've decided against that product or that seller.

Odd that so many others don't have issues with Firefox. I have low end dual-core 2 GB ram systems up to quad core hyperthreaded 16 GB ram and octo core 16 GB ram, and they all work the same with Firefox through multiple OS's, which is to say after about 3 tabs, it becomes intolerably slow to respond to anything, and scrolling becomes basically impossible because it's so delayed.

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Old 03-12-2016, 10:42 AM   #8
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A bit tangential, but relevant: when Mozilla announced that they would remove the tab groups functionality (which I used a lot), I went shopping for alternatives, and there are add-ons that bring back the original tab groups behaviour, but at the moment I'm rather happy with OneTab. It's not perfect, but it's simple and functional.

To answer to cwizardone's question, my browsing behaviour is similar to Timothy's: for example, when I'm on the news reader, I open all the interesting unread items on new tabs, clean and close the reader, and _then_ I start actually reading the items; or I'm reading a page and I find some interesting links: I open them in tabs while I finish reading the page, so I don't need to go back looking for the links.
Youtube is the main culprit in breaking this habit, because those damn videos autoplay whenever I open them, even if their tab is in background, add to this the nasty habit of my Firefox of crashing when playing YT videos, and you get that I'm pretty much forced to follow one link at a time…
 
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@ Timothy Miller and EmaRsk,

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