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LXer 10-05-2012 09:30 AM

LXer: Is that a backdoor or an “administrative password” on your Verizon Internet router?
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Verizon can change that password. In other to do that, they must have a master password, or as it is known in some circles, a backdoor. To Verizon, it is an administrative password. The only problem is their “administrative password” can unlock your administrative password.


H_TeXMeX_H 10-05-2012 10:08 AM

So, can't you just buy another router ? or switch companies ?

Jeebizz 10-05-2012 08:08 PM

Too ambigous
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You can use your own router on verizon's network depending on how you are connected. This article is rather ambiguous because it just says 'verizon' and does not state dsl or their FIOS services. I do tech support for their FIOS services, and there is an option to change the LPS (login password) on the router by an agent, but this is typically done when a cx calls in and cannot read the login password on the router itself.

Also, going back to my other point, depending on your type of connection, you can use your own. The FIOS routers have two connections usually, well three if you count VDSL but thats more rare. The two connections are usually the WAN ethernet port and or the COAX WAN connection. Typically if you just have data, the WAN Ethernet port would be connected unless no cat5e is run through the premises and you would then use coax. Coax usually comes into the mix if there are video services involved, and therefore you need the set top boxes to have network access (usually for program info and video on demand).

If it is not the latter, it is just as simple as connecting your own router and then calling tech support to break the lease on the old verizon router, then the new router would get a new ip, and at that point the cx would be on their own from that point on.

Now in the old days before verizon got contracts with westell and actiontec to produce moca based routers (not to be confused with DOCSIS, and DOCSIS cable modems cannot be used), verizon would supply a plain old D-link router with a NIM (Network Interface Module), or if a cx still had their own, verizon would just leave the nim only. The nim would be necessary of course for the set top boxes.

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Even if there are cx out there are just on a MOCA (coax) connection for internet and want to change their connection to purely cat5, verizon can do that no questions asked, I should know I have taken such calls. As long as the cx has already run an ethernet from the NID (verizon actually uses the term ONT - Optical Network Terminal), its just a call to tech support to switch on the ethernet port on it, then away they go.

Also there are articles on dslreports on adding a third party router while leaving the verizon router in the mix, but it gets quite convoluted and of course verizon won't troubleshoot such a setup.

But yea you can still use your own router if you really want to.

H_TeXMeX_H 10-06-2012 03:54 AM

Yeah, I've had a router installed with a coax cable for TV over internet. Those would be harder to replace.

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