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Old 09-13-2015, 08:50 AM   #1
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LXer: Has Windows 10 Killed Linux On The Desktop


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With the release of Windows 10 there have been a number of articles and podcasts discussing the issue as to what effect this will have on Linux. So has the release of Windows 10 had an adverse effect on Linux? I don't really think so and this article says why.

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Old 09-13-2015, 02:11 PM   #2
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just one word-----

" Sheeple "
 
Old 09-13-2015, 09:04 PM   #3
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I am so bored with "news" items panicking over "Linux on the desktop."

Until average computer users can easily and knowingly inspect in the marketplace and purchase computers with Linux pre-installed, these sorts of articles will remain click-bait for Linux geeks and nothing more. The average user has never and will never install an OS.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 03:12 AM   #4
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Totally agree with above post on this one. I get so tired of the linux ondesktop articles every single year.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 03:27 AM   #5
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I agree with frankbell on this one too. The geeks are the only ones who get worked up over this.

I will freely admit, if anything, although using GNU/Linux for over 15 years I am at best an intermediate level user, and these kind of articles just make me say "so what?" If I were a diehard Linux geek, perhaps I'd be like "Oh no, we have to do something!"

I don't care about the rest of the world. I could be the only GNU/Linux user for that matter, as long as it works for me, that's all that matters.

I know I'll probably get hell for this one, but the fact of the matter is, if it's taking the GNU/Linux desktop this long just to try to get a foothold, it's never going to find itself in comfortable place in the desktop "wars".
 
Old 09-15-2015, 06:28 PM   #6
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I know I'll probably get hell for this one, but the fact of the matter is, if it's taking the GNU/Linux desktop this long just to try to get a foothold, it's never going to find itself in comfortable place in the desktop "wars".
Linux has got a foothold. We're it.

Most computer users--the ones who think that being a geek is being able to make a new MS Office style or a drag-and-drop flash website at Wix.com--have never heard of Linux, let alone had an opportunity to see it and try it out.

I know--I've got lots of Linux gear I wear (my favorite way of supporting a project is to buy a baseball cap) and mostly it just gets blank looks. Occasionally someone asks, "What's Debian," and I say, "It's flavor of Linux," I get the blank look then.

This has nothing to do with the quality of the Linux desktop and everything to do with MS's (and the manufacturers of all the bloatware that accompanies an MS machine) stranglehold on computer mass marketers.

It is what is, and bellyaching won't change it.

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Old 09-16-2015, 11:10 AM   #7
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Most computer users--the ones who think that being a geek is being able to make a new MS Office style or a drag-and-drop flash website at Wix.com--have never heard of Linux, let alone had an opportunity to see it and try it out.

I know--I've got lots of Linux gear I wear (my favorite way of supporting a project is to buy a baseball cap) and mostly it just gets blank looks. Occasionally someone asks, "What's Debian," and I say, "It's flavor of Linux," I get the blank look then.
Poor wording, foothold may not have been the right word, but heck, I can't think of what I wanted to say now.

The cap reminds me I've been meaning to find this shirt I saw a guy wearing at the local homebrew (beer brewing supply) store. It said "Coexist", like the one we see for bumperstickers for religions, only this used various distro logos (and Solaris) rather than religious.
 
Old 09-16-2015, 12:53 PM   #8
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Windows 10 has nothing to do with Linux on the desktop (directly). OEM's that refuse to offer linux, or offer it only on a couple low end piles of garbage are the reason Linux hasn't succeeded. If OEM's started offering Linux on every pc and laptop, even if they didn't lower the price due to the M$ tax, Linux would have FAR, FAR, FAR greater penetration on the desktop. But as it is, there's a handful of OEM's that offer it AT ALL, and most of them only offer it on 2-3 systems, which are usually very low hardware specs (Dell Inspiron Ubuntu edition), or inflated prices on average hardware (ZaReason, $800 and still 1366x768 resolution with only 4 GB ram). I've been running linux as my primary desktop for about a decade, yet have NEVER been able to buy a preinstalled linux laptop because I can buy a Windows laptop with 1080P + 8 GB ram for $750, yet for the same money for a linux machine I get much less hardware, despite that they didn't have to pay for the Windows license for it.

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