LXer: Dell's Increasingly Excellent Linux Adventures
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The weather outside may be frightful, to adapt a phrase for the scorched and overheated world here in the Northern hemisphere, but there's no denying that July is turning out to be delightful for our favorite operating system. The latest news now is the apparent return of none other than Dell to the desktop Linux world. Read More... |
I'll believe it when I see it.
If Dell start selling multiple models with Linux pre-installed and present them as standard options rather than hidden away on the website or only for corporate, then I will believe that this isn't just a bluff they'll keep up until they get cheaper Windows licenses. As for Quote:
Costs more to buy due to OEM having to build an image? Needs new skills to use? Won't play your favourite games? [yet] Can't sync with your iPad? Won't let you get media from Hulu, Lovefilm, or iTunes? I've been using Linux pretty much exclusively (I have VMs for syncing with phones, etc.) at home for the past 8 years and I don't miss Windows but, seriously, apart from freedom and flexibility, which no "normal user" cares about, what advantages? Please? |
I'm farily cynical about Dell and linux...I remember what happened last time. (i.e., introduce soem linux models, then slowly drop them, or keep ancient hardware going so that your 'new' dell running a linux distro was 2-3 year old hardware and just as expensive as brand new hardware). IMO it was at least in part an effort to reduce the cost of windows for dell.
This time though there is probably a a bit more bet hedging going on......windows 8 looks more and more like its going to bomb. Not just due to the insane interface... Quote:
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As for advantages.....repos. ;) Its a lot easier to get safe, 'clean' software with minimal risk with the repo system that most linux distros use. |
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I am pro-Linux for everybody but I think the advantages of Linux are not things that most people give a **** about. Steam coming to Linux though, for example, may let people see it as a viable option. I reacted a little badly to a Linux advocate who sees advantages being held back from people when I know that the people I have mentioned them to don't care. |
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Miscosoft dont want a competitor having a price advantage. Leveraging linux to get lower priced windows licences is one thing, making linux versions cheaper might actually backfire, microsoft might charge more for windows in that case. O.K., its more complex than that, and because of the way that microsoft prices its licences means that they are _meant_ to charge a 'flat rate' for windows. The trick is that Dell (et all) get 'credits' for 'advertising'. Dell is also smart/cynical enough to pocket any difference in prices between windows and linux. Quote:
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I could be wrong on that, or a I could be right (currently) but microsoft might back down. |
You still have to wipe a drive to install linux. I dont see that it matters whether you are wiping off windows or ubuntu. I guess it will probably be cheaper tho.
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As I said, I was possibly overreacting to something that tends to annoy me -- a Linux advocate saying that Linux has advantages for the consumer when the consumer often does not care about those advantages. People lease cars and rent homes, people pay to have their hair cut and their lawn mowed. |
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If you're going to wipe the original OS, it makes sense in many ways to get a windows version. If the laptop came with windows, you can always reinstall it if you want to sell it. Most of the people who got a dell with ubuntu are the same sort of people who tout system76, zareason etc.. Quote:
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Dell also chose ubuntu because 'its the most popular'. Ubuntu is/was popular in part because of the amount of 'how to' guides on the net. Because lots of people run/ran ubuntu, more people wrote the 'how to' guides. Catch 22..... It could have been worse than ubuntu. I forget the really nasty linux distro that some manufactuers used, but it was worse than the *buntus IMO. I think it was xandros, but I'm not sure. |
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That sounds more like meego/moblin than xandros to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=meego http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=moblin Xandros looks like XP than horror that is unity or metro. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros |
Pretty sure it was Xandros, but with a custom interface:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Ee...8deprecated.29 The Wikipedia article has things wrong as it suggests mine (a 1000) would have shipped with Ubuntu but it didn't. |
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