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Old 09-08-2010, 06:20 AM   #1
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LXer: Debunking the 1% Myth


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It seems like almost every day someone in the tech press or someone commenting in a technical forum will claim that Linux adoption on the desktop (including laptops) is insignificant. The number that is thrown around is 1%. These claims are even repeated by some who advocate for Linux adoption. Both the idea that Linux market share on the desktop is insignificant and the 1% figure are simply false and have been for many years.

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Old 10-21-2010, 07:40 AM   #2
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Completely agreed with this article. +1 for the Bot.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 07:58 AM   #3
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And here's the ultimate gig:

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Originally Posted by Linus Torvalds, comment in that article
8%? Where did you get that number from?

Anyways your propaganda has already been debunked at binary playhouse:
http://www.binplay.com/2010/09/yes-l...lly-has-1.html
What?! You created Linux; why could you possibly attack your *own* OS? Sorry, Linus, I bet that O'Reilly user with your name is really Steve Ballmer in disguise.

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Old 10-21-2010, 08:17 AM   #4
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The original link seems to be down, but 8% is a good estimate. Anything between 5-10 % is accurate I think.

I guess I could debunk the debunked debunkers, but I think most people (here at least) can see through the BS.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 08:34 AM   #5
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That's exactly why I think the person I quoted who posted that comment to the article isn't really Linus Torvalds but some proprietary software troll disguised as him.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 12:28 PM   #6
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looks like M$ is starting to cringe.

If linux has an approximate market share to that of Mac OS as the article says,
I think Steve Jobs might cringe earlier before Bill Gate$ and M$ does.

- Cheers

As always linux rules!!!

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Old 10-21-2010, 12:50 PM   #7
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duplicate...

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Old 10-21-2010, 01:23 PM   #8
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Hi all,
I loved linux the moment it booted on my computer (knoppix). I have gotten into fights with people who (software/networking/computer etc engineers) who bad mouthed linux. People are simply like sheep. They just follow the crowd because they think it is safe.
I think there is a way to propogate linux that to me seems foolproof . All you have to do is sell a distro at an unbelivable price - get them to sign an agrement and tell them they are going to get the distro as and when we make it - and then make the distro not available. People will cringe and cry and you give them very technical answers - tell them that we are woking on /dev/null and it would take some more weeks . Then tell them the base system is available but then they have to pay some more because we have a new version of /dev/random. There will be a lot of misinformation and there will be debates and people would talk about this new system that will change their lives (trust me they will because one of their friends told them so).
When the system is ready tell them this is a demo version and we would need them to register at some site and we would authenticate them and check their system and we would provide updates.
I think this will make linux inaccessible and people will pay just to have a look at the demo.
Unfortunately, this goes against the GNU principles and we cannot do it.
BTW:- I have sold linux cds to some friends for about 10$ but I donated all the amount to charity. Feels good. I promiced them if anything goes wrong they can ask for my help - till now no one has come asking,for help . Though sometimes they ask me for an antivirus I just install tripwire and tell them the virus can be removed manually.
In short, the thing is if you want to sell something to a fool you have to think like one.
 
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Tripwire is not an antivirus program. Tripwire is used to detect file changes like file sizes, file alteration and modification times.

I think you are looking for clamav for antivirus and rkhunter for rootkit checks.
 
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Code:
$ sudo apt-get install clamtk
Or, if you have Arch:

Code:
pacman -Sy clamtk #correct me if the package name is wrong, MTK358 and Mr. Code
I'm not even going to talk about the RPM-based variant of the command. Find out for yourselves!
 
Old 10-21-2010, 05:40 PM   #11
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Also: Linux hasn't had malware in almost 10 years, so clamtk may not even be necessary.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 06:01 PM   #12
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I'm not even going to talk about the RPM-based variant of the command. Find out for yourselves!
Nobody here was asking how to install any antivirus programs. Why the temper?

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Old 10-22-2010, 07:25 AM   #13
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Quote:
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Also: Linux hasn't had malware in almost 10 years, so clamtk may not even be necessary.

Oh really? What about all the rootkits floating around out there? How about the Unreal IRC trojan earlier this year? Certainly Linux is much more resistant to exploits than Windows, but claiming it hasn't had a problem in 10 years is obviously just wrong.
 
Old 10-22-2010, 06:27 PM   #14
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Okay, maybe I was exaggerating a bit. But take a look here: In this Wikipedia article, the most up-to-date pieces of malware listed are 7-8 years old. That *almost* proves my point.
 
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No, it proves the Wikipedia article isn't maintained particularly well. People who have to do security for a living don't use Wikipedia for their warnings, they use things like CERT or SANS or one of the many listed in our own Security forum.

Again, I'm not trying to dispute that Linux isn't a much more secure environment than Windows, because when properly maintained it certainly is. However, Linux users do tend to get smug and overconfident because they threats they face tend to be rather different from the ones we're all familiar with from the Windows world, and I definitely get the impression that the average Linux user doesn't have a particularly good grasp on the real Linux threats. If you visit the Security forum regularly, you'll see stuff from Linux users that make you want to scream.
 
  


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