LinuxQuestions.org
Latest LQ Deal: Latest LQ Deals
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > SUSE / openSUSE
User Name
Password
SUSE / openSUSE This Forum is for the discussion of Suse Linux.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 09-04-2005, 05:36 PM   #46
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113

Any XP installation CD will do.

Your problem wil be a lot easier to solve if you have a floppy drive.
 
Old 09-04-2005, 05:47 PM   #47
neouto
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Posts: 49

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
wati is the comment "fixmbr" or "afaik fixmbr"
liquid_t thanks for you comments too

and
saikee, this guy is unbelivable, stay with a newb to fix a complex probem(make worst becasue i am a newb) for 3 day.

saikee, thank dude
 
Old 09-04-2005, 06:05 PM   #48
neouto
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Posts: 49

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
i can boot with my USB drive.
 
Old 09-04-2005, 06:07 PM   #49
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
You are welcome.

Everyone has been a newbie before. I started about 14 months ago. Just a couple of steps ahead of you.
 
Old 09-04-2005, 06:52 PM   #50
neouto
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Posts: 49

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
i will try to find a copy of xp installation cd, and try step two.
 
Old 09-05-2005, 01:52 AM   #51
neouto
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Posts: 49

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
do know if its possible to download a bootable software that supports fixmbr??
 
Old 09-05-2005, 12:54 PM   #52
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
You will be better off using a XP or W2k installation.

The problem is that you need an iso file, burn it to a CD, boot the laptop with it and then fix the mbr.

Most of the assistance bootable disks is to create a floppy but you haven't got a drive.
 
Old 09-05-2005, 01:18 PM   #53
neouto
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Posts: 49

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
i found this, will it work? i will use the "fdbootcd.iso" to make an boot cd

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-...ions/beta9sr1/

files are from

http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/
 
Old 09-05-2005, 01:54 PM   #54
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
Yep, you are in luck.

Just tried it myself.

You download the iso, in Nero choose burn image, select the iso file, open and write.

Then load the CD

choose option 1, then press F5 and you should be in command prompt in drive A (simulated by the CD).

The fdisk program is in Freedos directory, so

cd \freedos
fdisk /mbr

Good luck
 
Old 09-06-2005, 01:57 PM   #55
neouto
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: australia
Posts: 49

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
it worked, but it let me to my failed attemp to recover windows before i start to talk to you
so i cant get into windows

and i could not get back to suse, i did not have the password for recovery
(i tried every single user name and password but...)

any way thanks

any advice for what i should to next time i install suse, to avoid this problem?
should i use another distro?

thanks your all you time and advice

maybe i should wait for the next version of suse
 
Old 09-06-2005, 04:50 PM   #56
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
Your partitions are safe as long as you don't re-partition and then reformat it.

You can get back your Suse any time with a Live CD (say a Slax, Ubuntu, Koppix, Mepis etc). Just boot one up, get into super user mode, make a temporary directory as a mounting point, mount device hda4 of your Suse on the temporary directory, change root to it and reinstall its boot loader in the MBR. Read the way I describe above to appreciate the instrcutions given below

mkdir /mnt/hda4
mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
chroot /mnt/hda4
grub-install /dev/hda

Your Suse on reboot will be back to the state before you used FreeDOS.

At this point you are actually inside Suse and typing startx at the terminal might just get you back into Suse's desktop.

You never lose a partition. You only haven't got the tools or instructions to get it back.
 
Old 09-08-2005, 05:42 PM   #57
paul_e_t
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Orlinda TN USA
Distribution: SuSE 8.2, 9.0,.1,.2,.3,W98, Win ME, XP, Centos 4.2,4.3, VM DSL3.3 appliance
Posts: 125

Rep: Reputation: 17
For Saikee, Ref your post here #6

The other Win's is Win XP'x system restore copy of XP (always stores the restore as a W98 file).
Usually about midpoint on the disk.

Also need to shut off the XP's Vertual Mem (VM) disk since it will cause problems during installation in particular repartition.

Also note that XP and GRUB look at disk geometry differently.

paul_e_t
 
Old 09-08-2005, 06:11 PM   #58
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
Paul_e_t,

Thanks for the enlightment. I have suspected it could have something to do with the hidden backup. The trouble is that I always removed it because it got in my way. I never backup the system, only my personal data outside the system partition.

I take it this hidden partition can be removed without causing problem to the XP.
 
Old 09-09-2005, 04:34 PM   #59
paul_e_t
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Orlinda TN USA
Distribution: SuSE 8.2, 9.0,.1,.2,.3,W98, Win ME, XP, Centos 4.2,4.3, VM DSL3.3 appliance
Posts: 125

Rep: Reputation: 17
for Saiklee ur #58

I don't know what kind of problems could develop. Remember that XP can do a partial setback restore ( for lack of good words) where one can go back to a set time frame. Win XP may try to write these OS time slices and if there is not an available disk, I don't know what error checking will do since I and everyone else is not privy to the closed MS OS particulars.
I haven't had much luck with dual boot ever since SuSE 9.2 when I tried with my first SuSE/XP combination. Right now I am sereiously considering moving to Debian. I'll try my luck there for a bit.
The realities of the real world have placed MS Win's applications in a world wide useage situation. In order to communicate with others that are not as well versed with, or do not have, a Linux system working one is forced to write files to MS Word format in addition to the other popularly used applications. Those that say just use Linux are just not being real. Dual boot is a very needed requirement and could be a serious limitation of Linux if unable to put up, reliably, with XP's applications.
In any case, best of luck and I hope I've helped. Also if you discover something let everone know about it.
Standing by

Paul_e_t
 
Old 09-09-2005, 06:35 PM   #60
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
Dual boot?

My Linux boot loader Grub boots 45+ system in the box. They all can be booted by a Grub floppy too. There is nothing easier than booting in Linux. From one XP to 45+ system in 14 months. I dug up dead DOS, Win3x and got hold of FreeBSD and Solaris for Linux to boot. Each system can be booted manually by 3 lines, same for all systems! How simple can it be?

You can create such a Grub floppy in Suse. For multi boot Grub needs a script file and it is /boot/grub.menu.lst in your own Suse.

Last edited by saikee; 09-09-2005 at 06:37 PM.
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Now that my system is Unbootable........can someone help me! matthewa Linux From Scratch 1 06-06-2005 09:18 PM
Windows XP is unBootable after installing SuSE 9.1 Personal !! Help :( kal_q Linux - Laptop and Netbook 3 11-26-2004 04:49 PM
SuSE Live CD made Windows unbootable spaaarky21 Linux - General 4 09-29-2004 12:03 PM
unbootable old computer lilamrta Linux - General 5 08-17-2004 08:24 PM
My RH9 is unbootable after ... novkhan Linux - Newbie 2 01-20-2004 02:09 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > SUSE / openSUSE

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:49 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration