what the hell is that now ? 10.1 incompatible with itself ?

dukeinlondon · 05-19-2006, 04:08 PM

When I start the system update app in suse 10.1 I get the following message :
"The installed product is not compatible with the product on the installation media. If you Try to update using the current installation media, the system my not start of some application may not run properly"

The only sources configured are the CDs I used for the upgrade and SUSE online update source.

What gives ? Starting to hate this release.

andres9606t · 05-19-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dukeinlondon

When I start the system update app in suse 10.1 I get the following message :
"The installed product is not compatible with the product on the installation media. If you Try to update using the current installation media, the system my not start of some application may not run properly"

The only sources configured are the CDs I used for the upgrade and SUSE online update source.

What gives ? Starting to hate this release.

You're using the wrong tool. System Update is used to upgrade your system to a new release, using CDs. If you want to update your packages, use Online Update.

riba43 · 05-20-2006, 12:40 AM

To avoid troubles, I advise clean install of new version.

Micro420 · 05-20-2006, 01:02 AM

I also get the same error, and I did a clean install. Oh well.

dukeinlondon · 05-20-2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by andres9606t

You're using the wrong tool. System Update is used to upgrade your system to a new release, using CDs. If you want to update your packages, use Online Update.

Really ? Used it many times in 10.0 to update various packages and never got that message and I never pointed 10 to repositories of something else than 10.

Anyway, the package management part of Yast in 10.1 is broken as far as I am concerned. And something that I can't stand in a distro is bad package management. I used to not understand the critics of Yast but if it was like that in the past, no wonder they hated it. Makes me think of the Mandrake control center of old. Plenty of icons, nothing that works.

riba43 · 05-20-2006, 03:29 AM

What I ment is when you are upgrading a new version of OS, let us say - from SUSE 10.0 to 10.1 is always better to do clean install.

RBEmerson · 05-20-2006, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by riba43

What I ment is when you are upgrading a new version of OS, let us say - from SUSE 10.0 to 10.1 is always better to do clean install.

Nice advice but not always practical if the updates are being applied to a production system. That's an awful lot of config and log files to move around, for example...

riba43 · 05-20-2006, 07:37 AM

Updates/upgrades of the packages are always done automatically - in SUSE - by YAST. You do not need to configure anything yourself.

andres9606t · 05-20-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by riba43

Updates/upgrades of the packages are always done automatically - in SUSE - by YAST. You do not need to configure anything yourself.

Incorrect. You can set YaST up to upgrade packages automatically with a cron job, but that's not the default.

Also, I agree with the OP about package management in Suse 10.1. It's terrible. The 'rug' updater takes about 10 minutes to even start, and 'you' uses ~60% of my memory to run. It's too bad too, since in every other way 10.1 is a great release. I disabled zmd and am using the 'smart' package manager now, and it's much, much better.

riba43 · 05-20-2006, 11:47 PM

andres,
you are right about YAST. That was what I ment. About 10.1 updater, yes it is terrible. I am also using smart and yum too. I wanted to install apt but i got this error syntax message in line 212 which I do not understand ans so I can not correct.

samgoober · 05-28-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by andres9606t

I disabled zmd and am using the 'smart' package manager now, and it's much, much better.

Can you please point me to a doc on the update method to which you are referring?

Thanks
Sam