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Old 04-20-2005, 11:53 AM   #1
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SUSE 9.3 Pro and nVidia driver


Hello, folks.

I'm having a problem with the nVidia driver update under YaST with 9.3 Pro. I did a search, but I'm not seeing anything that resembles the issue that I'm having.

Basically, I download the driver using YOU. While the download happens very quickly, the install of the driver takes quite some time compared to previous versions in the 9.x family. After some time, though, I eventually get the signal that the install went OK.

However, I'm not getting 3D support. Everytime I try to update the driver, and then go to enable 3D, I'm told that 3D is not supported and I have to reinstall the driver. I've selected Update in YOU several times, now, and each time it says the install went through just fine. I've tried restarting my system, as well, with no success. I've even re-installed 9.3 three times and still have this problem.

I'm not sure if the drive is being updated properly in the XF86Config file, so I'm going to take a look at that (as soon as I can find the stinkin' file), but I'm wondering if anyone else has some ideas?

Other than this problem, I'm quite impressed with the overall look and feel of 9.3. It seems faster, and there are several small improvements that I've already noticed. For instance, now there is an option in the NIC configuration of YaST to set up a particular interface to only activate if a cable is plugged in.
 
Old 04-20-2005, 12:08 PM   #2
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This topic has been covered thoroughly in these forums. The nvidia driver you get thru YOU will not be the latest version but should allow 3d acceleration. You can get the latest nvidia driver from the nvidia website site but you must have kernel sources and some development tools installed in order to compile it.

Try this from the command line as root to enable 3d
Code:
sax2 -m 0=nvidia
Hint: 0 is a number

Your XF86Config file is under /etc/X11.
 
Old 04-20-2005, 12:29 PM   #3
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Quote:
Originally posted by pilotgi
The nvidia driver you get thru YOU will not be the latest version but should allow 3d acceleration.
Yes, I agree, it should allow for 3D acceleration. What I'm stating is that even though I have "installed" the driver via YOU, SaX2 is reporting that it is not available. Apparently, I'm going to need to try downloading and installing the latest driver from nVidia. I've heard, though, that it's not a good idea to not go through YaST for the video driver. Is this correct?

Also, XF86config isn't under /etc/X11. I am showing xorg.conf in that location.
 
Old 04-20-2005, 02:50 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by SchadeBoy
Yes, I agree, it should allow for 3D acceleration. What I'm stating is that even though I have "installed" the driver via YOU, SaX2 is reporting that it is not available. Apparently, I'm going to need to try downloading and installing the latest driver from nVidia. I've heard, though, that it's not a good idea to not go through YaST for the video driver. Is this correct?
Using the command I posted above should enable 3d. You might have to exit X before using this command or restart X after this command for it to take effect. I've installed the latest nvidia drivers without problems.

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Also, XF86config isn't under /etc/X11. I am showing xorg.conf in that location.
Then your 9.2 install is different than mine because I have XF86Config and Xorg.conf under /etc/X11. Either one is the configuration file for X.
 
Old 04-20-2005, 03:02 PM   #5
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SchadeBoy



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2) Use the nvidia installer for 1.0-7174.

modprobe agpgart
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run -q

3) Configure X.Org with

sax2 -m 0=nvidia (0 is a digit, not a letter!)

NOTE: There is no need to try to enable 3D support. It's already
enabled, when the nvidia driver is running.
This is from the Nvidia Read Me, before installing the Nvidia drivers when Sax tests my configuration 3D is crossed out, after installation even though Sax reports 3D not available the test page shows it enabled

Pete
 
Old 04-20-2005, 03:06 PM   #6
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Originally posted by pilotgi
Then your 9.2 install is different than mine...
I'm not on 9.2. As my initial question states, I have a fresh install of SUSE 9.3.

I am wondering if the reason I am having trouble is due to me not having installed the kernel-source modules? I have since done that, but since I'm not online yet (I am currently at work, and connecting to the network would not be prudent if I intend to keep my laptop) I can't re-run YOU until I get home. So...I guess I'll just have to be patient and try later.

I hate being patient. I'd have never made it as a Sith Lord...
 
Old 04-20-2005, 04:31 PM   #7
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Pete,
The problem is that I'm not convinced my nvidia driver is running. I don't get the nVidia splash screen during bootup or when I restart my xserver. And any 3D enabled games that I run always come up with an error message saying that 3D support is not enabled on the video adapter.

I've never had a problem with the nVidia drivers prior to this, and it's driving me crazy. I know they work. I'm thinking of just recompiling the drivers from the latest available on the nVidia web site and going from there.
 
Old 04-20-2005, 05:04 PM   #8
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Angry nVidia Driver doesn't work:(

Hello!

I've installed SuSE Linux Pro 9.3, it is perfect!
But there's one problem
When I install the nVidia driver (For my FX 5200 128 MB)
I get a strange login screen, the next time I startup.
So, when I login everything does still work, etc....
But the next time I startup, and login, It doesn't start:s
When I re-install everything, and Install the nVidia driver again,
The first time it does work, but after that, not any more:s

Could someone help me?
(Now I'm on WXP )
 
Old 04-20-2005, 05:12 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by SchadeBoy
I'm not on 9.2. As my initial question states, I have a fresh install of SUSE 9.3.
Oh yea. I looked at 9.2 on the left under your name and completely forgot the title.

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I am wondering if the reason I am having trouble is due to me not having installed the kernel-source modules? I have since done that, but since I'm not online yet (I am currently at work, and connecting to the network would not be prudent if I intend to keep my laptop) I can't re-run YOU until I get home.
You only need kernel-source and make to compile your own drivers. The one you get from YOU doesn't need it. And I don't believe the one you install with YOU has the splash screen.
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I know they work. I'm thinking of just recompiling the drivers from the latest available on the nVidia web site and going from there.
Sounds like a good idea.
 
Old 04-20-2005, 07:26 PM   #10
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I couldn't get SuSE's Nvidia drivers to work also. Not sure why though. So I just install the drivers on Nvidia site they work just fine.
 
Old 04-21-2005, 01:59 PM   #11
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Update:

I've downloaded and installed the nVidia driver direct from nVidia's web site and according to their instructions (not hard). I was able to enable 3D support, but now I'm getting a very strange effect on my screen. With 3D support enabled, the system seems to think that my display is only 1400X1040 instead of 1600X1200. Even though 1600X1200 is set as the resolution in SaX2.

The display is placing the full desktop in the upper left-hand corner of the screen and overs approximately 7/8 of the display. The entire remaining lower 1/8 is made up of an exact copy of the top 1/8 of the screen. The right side is a rainbow of colored vertical lines. I'd take a snapshot of the weirdness, but the computer won't actually move the cursor into this colored band area.

I think the problem resides in the frequencies that X is trying to use for the display. If I go into KDE's window configuration screen, it shows the display at 1400X1050, and I can't increase the resolution to the normal 1600X1200 that I usually have. If I go into SaX2, under the Geometry section, it also shows 1400X1050. The Resolution section shows 1600X1200, though.

All of this only happens when 3D support is enabled. If I disable that, then all is fine.

But I do like the 3D games that come with Linux, and I'd really like to be able to play them.

Anyone ever see anything like this or have any ideas?

Last edited by SchadeBoy; 04-21-2005 at 03:57 PM.
 
Old 04-21-2005, 04:03 PM   #12
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I've installed the drivers from nVidia.com
But again, I see a picture of nVidia, and then I see a white/grey login,
When I give up Pass & User, the login goes away(the screen is still grey)
And then, he does... nothing:s
Does someone have a good id for me?

Last edited by SimeonV; 04-21-2005 at 04:43 PM.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 05:10 PM   #13
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SUSE 9.3 Pro and nVidia driver

Hi,

I have exactly the same problem as reported by SimeonV.
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I installed SUSE 9.3 over 9.0. This worked absolutely seemless and the system came up fine afterwards. After 2 days it did not start fine anymore. As previously described I got an almost white login screen with the the SUSE logo. Only ROOT login was accepted, no user login. But also root login was not successful, except as simple text (line) mode.

It took some time to figure out that the problem was the NVIDIA driver, which I hadn't updated. I did the update via YOU and it seemed to work. But whatever I did, I couldn't get rid of that nasty white login screen lying "Welcome at Linux".
I restored the whole Linux from backup, installed SUSE 9.3 again, installed the NVIDIA driver. Everything fine ! After a couple of hours the same problem.
Same procedure as before, except that this time I installed the very latest driver from NVIDIA (as described earlier in this forum). Everything fine, the NVIDIA driver is obviously running (splash screen). When I logged out as user in order to login as root same problem again.
I rebooted with init 3, from a text console I started YAST and changed the graphics driver to VESA (system should run with this setting). After that I can start xwindow, but only as root. There is no way to login as user and when I boot normally I have the nasty white welcome screen again.
In fact I did many more attempts and restored the backup image of my SuSE system many more times nad I am tired of it.

My questions are: How can I get rid of the Nasty White Suse Screen ? How can I make user logon possible again ?

The problem is not the graphics card (NVIDIA Geforce4 MX 4000). It worked fine with the older driver and SUSE 9.0, works with other distributions (highest kernel 2.6.9) and with Windows XP. NVIDIA driver clearly has problems with more recent 2.6 kernels !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Help appreciated.
Rainer
 
Old 04-22-2005, 05:41 PM   #14
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My experiences with the nVidia driver and 9.3 are very similar to what is being described here. My problems are documented earlier, as well. If 3D is enabled, I get the strange video resolution issue, which I have not been able to fix. I have checked over and over the xorg.conf file on my system, even adding Modeline statements, and I still get the same problem.

When I removed the driver, I would start getting the above mentioned grey/white login screen. Although I wouldn't have problems loggin in as user. KDE would come up after logging in, but I would have a strange Xterm window the cornder everytime. Eventually, though, that would even stop working right, and I'd just get the blank grey/white screen.

I believe that this is the standard X Window GUI. When I would left click anywhere on the desktop, I'd get a menu. It was very limiting. I couldn't do much with it, but I was able to bring up a terminal window. I could then restart the computer and boot into text-based mode.

I tried running Yast and SaX2 from the command line to repair KDE and the X Server, but that didn't help. The only way I could fix the problem was to completely reinstall a fresh copy of 9.3.

Last night I gave up on the problem. I decided that I was just going to have to sacrifice 3D support for now. So as it stands, I don't have any 3D games, 3D screensavers running, or anything else that required OpenGL support. Which is fine. The main reason I am looking at Linux is not for game support, but to see if I can make a complete switch over to it as my main operating system. As much as I really like TuxRacer, I'll just have to live without it. Not a huge sacrifice.

I'll keep my eyes open for updates to things, though. I do believe this is a driver issue, and not hardware related. Hopefully nVidia will come up with an updated driver soon.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 05:53 PM   #15
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I've never heard of these problems before, but I'm not running 9.3 myself. There have been no changes to the SUSE install how-to from nvidia's site for 9.3 from 9.2. After installing 9.3, run YOU and reboot before installing the latest nvidia drivers. If in the future there are any kernel updates thru YOU, you will need to reinstall the nvidia drivers.

Next time you have a problem, boot into text mode as root and:

lsmod

If nvidia isn't listed:

modprobe nvidia

If that doesn't fix it, then I'm stumped.

Last edited by pilotgi; 04-22-2005 at 05:54 PM.
 
  


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