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If you are trying to download Suse isos, then bittorrent is going to be slow because very few people will have access to these isos since they are not officially sanctioned by Suse.
Joe12345,
*grin* The legality of the 9.3 CD ISOs aside, if you do not need the ISOs and you need to install suse 9.3 urgently, you could do a simple ftp installation and then update your system.
I am on Bit-Torrent downloading the 9.3 ISOs since last friday (22/04/05, 1700hrs) and with only a downtime of about 24 to 36 hours during the week, i am now up to 80% completed.
But i am okay with it as during this time, i am reading of bugs encountered and ways to resolve them.
I wasn't referring to legal issues when I mentioned that the torrent file was not officially sanctioned by Suse. I was implying that if it was created by Suse and made available to download, then there probably would be more people participatig in the torrent making download speeds faster.
Originally posted by reddazz I wasn't referring to legal issues when I mentioned that the torrent file was not officially sanctioned by Suse. I was implying that if it was created by Suse and made available to download, then there probably would be more people participatig in the torrent making download speeds faster.
What you are saying doesn't make much sense,sorry.
A *lot* of people were complaining no end about the torrents organized by Mandrake, go figure.
The speed of a torrent depends on several factors:
1)How well you can configure your client and your firewall. It isn't particularly difficult, but I have realized that you keep learning new tricks all the time.
2)The number of seeds. A torrent is about sharing. Too many people leave immediately after completing their own copy.
3)How much everybody is uploading. When there is no sense of community, people try to upload as little as possible, not realizing that their own download suffers as well.
Last edited by Alessandro; 04-30-2005 at 06:45 PM.
Yes, file sharing only works well if people show consideration to others. Unfortunately, this is not the case... most people will configure their upload rate to as slow as they possibly can and their download rate to "no limit" - then log off as soon as they get what they want. Or, in some cases like with P2P app's like Kazaa - most people won't even allow uploading. Selfishness and greed are the reasons file sharing sort of sucks these days.
Besides, as someone else had mentioned in an earlier post (and I agree with them). Downloading something *unofficial* (regardless if it's not in violation of any law) is a bad idea. You have NO idea what's actually in that file.
Besides, I don't understand what the mad rush is anyway. Why is everyone in such a hurry to get 9.3. From reading about it, it seems there's quite a few bugs and issues that need to be ironed out.
Personally, I'm just going to keep using 9.2 till A). the bugs and issues of 9.3 are ironed out... B). A trustworthy *official* release, for download, is made available (not sure if that's going to happen with 9.3 or not). If I *really really* just gotta have it THAT badly - then I'll go out and spend the 90 bucks to get it.
Originally posted by Alessandro What you are saying doesn't make much sense,sorry.
A *lot* of people were complaining no end about the torrents organized by Mandrake, go figure.
The speed of a torrent depends on several factors:
1)How well you can configure your client and your firewall. It isn't particularly difficult, but I have realized that you keep learning new tricks all the time.
2)The number of seeds. A torrent is about sharing. Too many people leave immediately after completing their own copy.
3)How much everybody is uploading. When there is no sense of community, people try to upload as little as possible, not realizing that their own download suffers as well.
You obviously didn't understand the semantics of what I was implying. I know how torrents work, but I was suggesting that if this torrent was an official public torrent (sort of like what Fedora, mandrake and other Linux distros do), then maybe they'd be more people participating in the torrent thus resulting in more download sources and possibly faster download rates.
Originally posted by gokulagiridaran hi why dont you share the iso over ftp.
Before SUSE 9.2 that was the way some kind souls were trying to share.
The results were always very unsatisfactory: extremely overloaded servers; thousands of people trying to get SUSE and only a few dozens actually getting it. Funny enough at that time nobody at all was complaining: is it the quantity that scares people?
Then somebody (actually I know him very well, LOL) suggested to use bittorrent instead, and ever since countless thousands of people have downloaded SUSE.
I am one of those who believe that bittorrent sharing is in fact a GOOD thing:
the vast majority of people who download wouldn't buy SUSE anyway: they can't afford it, or it is not available in their country... (I know it very well because I have sent copies to such people, paying myself for the media and for P&P)
But exposure to linux and to SUSE can only be good: later on in their lives those people are likely to use SUSE both at home and at work, suggesting it to their employers. Novell is well aware of it.
As to the reliability of such torrent downloads, nobody has ever complained after so many successful downloads.
You are right in terms of availability. I have to send copies of distros to my friends in Africa because they can't go buy them in the shops or don't have the bandwith do download them.
Originally posted by reddazz You are right in terms of availability. I have to send copies of distros to my friends in Africa because they can't go buy them in the shops or don't have the bandwith do download them.
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