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Old 10-04-2007, 09:19 PM   #1
Bill_Blessing
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SuSE 10.3 install woes


I'd like to be descriptive as possible, but I don't know about this one. When my installation gets to "Installation Setup" it hangs up, i.e. I can move the around and everything looks ok, but it never goes anywhere after I click Install when notified that installing will erase any previous data as it normally does. I've twice had this happen and I thought maybe accepting all the default values and letting it go would help, but no dice. My computer isn't the greatest, but it isn't slow enough to the point where it should stay on this screen for an hour, as it did the first time (3.06 GHz celeron D 346 and 1GB Ram on a Biostar motherboard). This is a first as suse 10.x before it were fine. It's not a major issue as I have more than one computer to toy with, but it's out of principle
 
Old 10-04-2007, 11:11 PM   #2
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you are relatively lucky -- I would say don't bother and try something else.

I did spend > 3 hours to install .. finally I got it to work, cuz I just wanted to see all the screwups :-) .. I am glutton for punishment.

Anyways, this is probably the worst install I have seen in a long time from Suse .. all the beta's had problems and I don't think anyone is minding the store.

Once installed it's acceptable .. though I think some screwball got in there and have made the overall setup time totally unacceptable.
 
Old 10-05-2007, 01:25 AM   #3
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WUD THEY DO THIS TIME?
I've just tried to install the KDE CD 32 bit "3 times" and can't even get to kde. I have Debian etch, Suse 10.2, and Slackware 12 on this box. Nvidia 6200 card. Suse 10.3 sez that there is no x server all 3 times. During the installs it kept telling me that x11 fonts were broken. So I got the DVD downloading now. I'll see what happens with that.


10/15/07 update to my post:
I finally installed 10.3 from a DVD and loved this new system .....
UNTIL:
I noticed that every time I re-boot, my printer settings disappear. (HP all in one C4180).
This printer has always been perfect on 10.2, Debian, & Slack 12.
I tried a re-install and still nuthin'.
The boot loader screen also disappears sometimes so it will only boot in to whatever is set as default. (I triple boot Debian, Suse, & Slack)
Other than a few little bugs I think 10.3 is going to be much better than 10.2. It seems to be much faster and I like the new yast system.
I've removed 10.3 because of all the bugs. But will be trying it again after the updates and fixes start rolling in. I really like it but just can't deal with it till they fix it.

Last edited by slackass; 10-15-2007 at 12:17 PM.
 
Old 10-05-2007, 09:03 AM   #4
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well...

Thanks guys. I think I am going to let it go even though I think it is hung up. It may be working because I was able to ping it from another computer (I added the online repositories before the install and set my IP address). The tentative plan is to start the install after work, go drinking, come back, and hope that it is on the root password set screen. I'd be giving it roughly six hours to install, just in case it is actually installing, but not on the performing installation screen (doubt it as the hour install that hung up never deleted the windows partition and that shouldn't take an hour to do). If this fails, then it's back to SuSE 10.2. I can hear a violin playing in the background...
 
Old 10-05-2007, 10:26 AM   #5
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Yeah, 10.2 without zenworks is a decent OS.
 
Old 10-06-2007, 10:24 AM   #6
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problem solved

All,

As a last test, I decided to install SuSE 10.2 and then install 10.3; both times as a fresh install. SuSE 10.2 was able to get rid of the windows partition, but 10.3 could not delete a windows partition nor could it resize one without an error. It seems that 10.3 likes Windows even less than some on the Linux forums with complete intolerance for it. This seems to be something the developers should look into; fixing support for Windows partitions if it hasn't already been done. However, the fresh install of 10.3 with no windows partitions went as smooth as I thought it should be. Keep up the good work.
 
Old 10-06-2007, 03:53 PM   #7
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how do you remove zenworks by the way? Also what does it do, just check if all your files are latest version?
 
Old 10-06-2007, 04:14 PM   #8
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zenworks

Kinnth,

I am assuming that you are using SuSE 10.2. Go to YaST->Software Management and then search for zen. Remove both zmd and zenworks. There are shell methods to doing it, but I can't remember what they are off the top of my head. It is broken and you are right to remove it.
 
Old 10-06-2007, 04:27 PM   #9
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You may want to try the "nolapic" when doing the install.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 05:10 PM   #10
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Thank god for drive image programs. I did a backup of suse 10.2 before I started missing with 10.3, and so far I am glad I did. If you try an update from 10.2 to 10.3, it screws up 10.2. Can't even connect to the internet. If you install from scratch, you have no internet, and it still has problems with nvidia. I do not understand why they don't just install a vesa driver for video, then we can install our 3d video card drivers. Its like hello, mcfly is anybody home. So now I'm back on suse 10.2.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 07:15 PM   #11
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NVidia

I hear you with the NVidia problem. I use the installer every single time instead of adding the drivers and kernel module from YaST. If this had been the first time I installed Linux I would've been in some trouble with this one as it messed up my xorg.conf file big time. However, I must say that if you do indeed get SuSE 10.3 working it is WELL worth your time. Compiz Fusion is spectacular and the one click install is WONDERFUL. Source Installation is completely different, but is lightning fast. The only bugs I've ran into (other than the previous problems with NVidia and a former Windows installation) is the gnome terminal window decorator crashing the second time I open it per log in (no biggie as it does not happen in anything else) and sometimes it doesn't let you shutdown (also no problem as you can log in as root and type init 0, which always works). I think they've a winner this time.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 04:56 AM   #12
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You can add ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3/ as a repository source and then download the nvidia drivers using yast2. this worked on my laptop, but I needed to run the nvidia installer for my desktop. I don't know if it is the card or the monitor, but it's always taken some work getting the video working.
 
Old 10-10-2007, 08:39 AM   #13
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Well, what I did with suse 10.2 to fix the nvidia problem does not work with 10.3. On 10.2 I just edited the xorg.conf and changed the "nv" to "vesa" , booted into gui and downloaded the nvidia installer , did a runlevel 3 and installed the nvidia drivers. This does work with 10.3 and I can't get to the desktop because the gui locks up the computer. I just get a corrupted green background and no menu or icons and it just hangs. So I'll just stick with 10.2 for now. Hopefully someday the developers with get there head out of the butts, and fix this issue. Sorry I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but this is really getting old.
 
Old 10-13-2007, 01:32 AM   #14
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At least some of you can get 10.3 to install. I can't even do a clean install with plain KDE using the DVD. This is the first time I have ever seen an installer fail due to "dependency hell". I've tried 3 times and everytime I get an "unresolved dependency" message. How can a distro fail to include the all the packages needed to complete the default install?

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Old 10-13-2007, 02:58 AM   #15
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At least some of you can get 10.3 to install. I can't even do a clean install with plain KDE using the DVD. This is the first time I have ever seen an installer fail due to "dependency hell". I've tried 3 times and everytime I get an "unresolved dependency" message. How can a distro fail to include the all the packages needed to complete the default install?
Can you be more specific? The default install should have all the required packages to get you going.

Yes, dependency hell is very common with RPM's. I hate it. It's not clean like APT in Debian based-distros
 
  


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