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Old 12-11-2018, 04:13 AM   #1
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Running Suse 15 live from usb


Hi All,

I would like to run Suse Leap 15 from a USB.

I do not want to install it though.

I have a touch screen dell laptop with plenty of gizmos.

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Dell Inspiron 17 7746

8Gb ram 1Tb HD

Core i5 Intel 5200U

Running Win 8.1
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I just don't know what will and what won't work.

So, is this possible?

If I reach the happy state of running Suse comfortably from usb, then I might try to install it, but in this case keep the win8 and making it dual boot.

I know this is fraught but at least I will know how well Suse runs before going there.

All advice welcome. (Including "Don't do it!")

Regards

Chris
 
Old 12-11-2018, 06:39 AM   #2
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Did you review this page: https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap
There is an option for Live, which will run on the USB, and not install...
 
Old 12-12-2018, 05:16 PM   #3
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Thanks dc.901 (I think I met your brother, levi)

Hadn't seen it but will go through it, thanks again

Regards

Chris
 
Old 12-22-2018, 10:22 AM   #4
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So, I downloaded the latest version of suse 15

openSUSE-leap-15.0-DVD-x86_64.iso

put the iso onto a usb with Balene Etcher.

booted from the usb on the Dell 7746 running Win 8.

Linux boots up but I am presented with the installation menu.

I don't want to install until I am certain that I still get most of the functions working on the machine.

From the menuu I can select <More> but it seems there are no options to run Suse 15 from the usb, only install it.

Would I be right in assuming that this is the wrong iso I've chosen? It was about 3.4 gb

there is another option on the site at about 1.5gb referred to as 'Live' but the caveats suggest that you cant really use it as it's so stripped down.

Has anybody done what I am trying to do?

All guidance appreciated.

Regards

Chris
 
Old 12-22-2018, 10:42 AM   #5
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give this a read

SDB:Live USB stick
 
Old 12-23-2018, 03:54 AM   #6
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Thank you BW-userx. Hi.

Yes I had seen that. I discarded it the first time as it seems quite old.

I noticed now that it has links to Leap 15.


I have a 'live' stick and can boot from it but it lives in its own world.

I used fdisk -l to see what the disks were called.

Lots of info but confusing.

I am unable to mount any obvious drive. The system suggests that Windows has them locked.

I managed to stop NetworkManager abd start wicked, then got onto the web so I think the best thing to do now, would be to get you some screen shots from fdisk. If I can.

Merry Christmas
 
Old 12-23-2018, 06:39 AM   #7
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I am unable to mount any obvious drive. The system suggests that Windows has them locked.
What filesystem is on the partitions on the drives you are unable to mount and which windows are you using? The default for windows 10 is to leave hibernation on and turn it on when you do some updates even after it has been turned off. Linux systems won't mount hibernated partitions.
 
Old 12-23-2018, 09:20 AM   #8
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Hi yancek.
it has win 8.1 on it
I do not know the file system.
win 8 is shut down before I boot from the USB.

I'm going to put information here that I get from fdisk -l

Code:
localhost:~ # fdisk -l
Disk /dev/loop0: 773.1 MiB, 810680320 bytes, 1583360 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes


Disk /dev/loop1: 4.3 GiB, 4590665728 bytes, 8966144 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes


Disk /dev/sda: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 1CF7E70B-908F-471B-AFD2-0C7690DC9741

Device          Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sda1        2048    1026047    1024000  500M EFI System
/dev/sda2     1026048    1107967      81920   40M unknown
/dev/sda3     1107968    1370111     262144  128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sda4     1370112    2906111    1536000  750M Windows recovery environment
/dev/sda5     2906112 1936490138 1933584027  922G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda6  1936490496 1937526783    1036288  506M Windows recovery environment
/dev/sda7  1937526784 1953523119   15996336  7.6G Windows recovery environment




Disk /dev/sdb: 3.7 GiB, 3965190144 bytes, 7744512 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6217a43c

Device     Boot   Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1  *         64 1761279 1761216  860M 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2       1761280 1791999   30720   15M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
/dev/sdb3       1792000 7744511 5952512  2.9G 83 Linux
localhost:~ #
If I try to mount, say, sda5, this is what I get:

Code:
localhost:~ # mount -t auto /dev/sda5 /mnt/
Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
Failed to mount '/dev/sda5': Operation not permitted
The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
localhost:~ #
So, now it looks like I have to find out what the hell windows is doing.

From windows there are no obvious clues how to shut the machine down in any other way than I'm doing.

So, at least I know that the system is NTFS.

If I shut Linux down, I lose the wlan configuration so I'm getting plenty of practice in areas I didn't expect.
 
Old 12-23-2018, 02:25 PM   #9
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if you do not shut down windows properly, or have hibernation on it then it marks the partitons unread and unwritible to save them in a state that hibernation can use them. turn that off, and it should be accessible, making sure you have ntfs-3g installed of course.

I do not know where you are at on your endevier to make a usb OS of OpenSuSe but did you give the scripts they have a try even?

https://github.com/cyberorg/live-fat-stick

from what it looks like all you need to do is plug in the version, when running one of them scripts, read the prerequisites first. It is on that page I posted.

Last edited by BW-userx; 12-23-2018 at 02:50 PM.
 
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Since you have now verified that your windows is hibernated, you might take a look at the microsoft site below which explains doing that.
Major updates (don't know how they define "major") will turn hibernation on again. You won't be asked if you want it nor will you be told it is being done.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...hat-is-running

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Old 12-24-2018, 07:09 AM   #11
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Thanks guys.
plenty to look at there.

Seasons greetings to you all.

I'll probably be back later, in the new year.

Regards

Chris
 
Old 01-28-2019, 10:54 AM   #12
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Too much for me in the short term so I'll terminate this thread, especially as I have been hit with other more pressing Suse 15 matters.

Thanks for your help, I will come back to it.

Regards

Chris
 
  


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