Release Cycle?
Does anyone know how SuSE's release cycle works? How long do they support each version of their OS. Ubuntu is great and all but I want an OS that is mainstream....but I don't want to have to buy and upgrade every year. Every 2 years would be good.
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i don't know about their continued updates to a version, but i do know that you can still get everything you need for suse 7.0 and up at pretty much any ftp web site. take a look at
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386 and ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/discontinued/i386 you will have to do an ftp install with the boot disk from the directory. |
I've been worried about the same recently. SuSE is putting out new 'versions' about 6 months apart around April and October ever since I've been using it (8.2, 9.0, 9.1 and now 9.2).
What I'm not sure of is how long they keep maintaining those older versions, eg with security patches etc? Eg, I used to have 2 machines, one on 9.1 and one on 9.0. The 9.1 machine would get a patch for some security issue with a library, but there wasn't always a patch for the same thing with 9.0. There seemed to be less and less patches available for 9.0 as time went by. Anyone have any idea how this works? How long is a single version suppported? |
SuSE support ends two years after initial release.
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Thx - that's good to know.
I guess the follow up to that is does support mean all fixes? Or security fixes? Or 'critical' security fixes? Does anyone know how 'support' is defined? :o answered my own question. Check out SUSE's comparative guide. Security fixes only. |
Right. The way I read this is that SuSE will support enthusiast releases with security fixes for up to 2 years after initial release. Everything else is under a 6 month cycle. Which means (IMHO) that if Suse 9.2 came out last week, all 'other updates' for 9.1 ceased at that point, except for security updates which will continue for another 1.5 years. This is the major problem (for end-users) with such short cycles.
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I would rather have Novell remove the download option and support each for say...4 years. Although I guess it is specificially for enthusiast users that don't mind upgrading every 2 years.
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My machine still has enough things that aren't working or are partially working that upgrading every 6 months to get those fixed because the updates are in newer versions of SUSE becomes expensive. :(
I'd rather see a 1 year cycle with updates included. I don't get how releasing so frequently helps SUSE, except maybe to 'claim' another version. I guess "9.2" sounds better than "9.1 SP1" :scratch: |
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So I'm wondering just what is that boxed version for? Do they expect "Average Joe" that walks thru <insert local computer store that sells SUSE> to buy it. Just what exactly is an 'enthusiast'? What else would I buy that's for enthusiasts ? Why am I paying $45-$79 each 6 months ? You're right that they're not competing with MS. Over the same 2 year period, I would have spent less than that for a full retail version of Windows XP Pro! But I guess that's not for the enthusiasts? And I have spent an *awful lot* of time maintaining and debugging the system. I bought SUSE so I wouldn't have to roll my own distribution, compile kernels etc. I guess I'm questioning my own decision of Linux distribution. Wow! What a rant. No offence intended - I'm a bit frustrated. ws |
On that link you sent me to, you were using kernel 2.4 with 9.0 right? 2.6 has much much much better support for laptops. So a couple of things.
1) It's not Linux's fault hardware manufacturers don't supply proper drivers for Linux. 2) As said, each product is supported for 2 years, you don't have to buy every version of SuSE. Upgrade every 2 years with cheap linuxcd.org CDs. You'll spend less than Windows that way. Quote:
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http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ You can try that if you want to "roll your own distribution" |
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On the topic of distros, I have also have a problem. There's a lot of them - both those you mentioned and others like FC, Deb, Mandrake etc that I have considered. I was a RH user and blew it off when they wouldn't sell retail and went all 'go away retail' with FC. That's what led me to SUSE. Those distros above, I find it hard to consider for a lot of reasons such as financial stability and backing of the company, market share and 3rd party certification and support of their OS. Eg, I can imagine ATI testing on RH and SUSE, and there are plenty of other distros that have a larger install base than Linspire and co. etc. The same applies re software too. They go where the market share is. I'd put FC, Deb, Mandrake way ahead of those on that criteria. The intersection of the distro and my hardware also determines the likelihood that someone has come across a specific problem I have, or (more rarely) I can share a solution to something I've come across in the broader community. Anyways, thanks for your excellent post. It's made me think and helping me analyze what I really want from a distro. Debian Sarge might be worth a closer look in a month or so ;) |
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